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#1 2017-09-26 14:03:02

WIP
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"Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

Hello,
I'm sorry to do that post but I have no account on wiki. I just noticed that this page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … tributions contain few mistakes :
- Alpine Linux is not at all Arch-based and is closer to gentoo than anything (but in fact claim to be independent). It use OpenRC, its own package manager and busybox so it as nothing to do in this page.

- the chakra link lead to a sourceforge download page instead of the beautiful main web site https://chakralinux.org/. This is the same for Nettrunner (https://www.netrunner.com/netrunner-rol … -released/), ninja OS (but the web site is far less beautiful http://www.ninjaos.org/) and telisc (https://teliscos.wordpress.com/)

- the obarun link is dead (error 404)

Is there any body that could correct the wiki please ?

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#2 2017-09-26 14:05:19

slithery
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Re: "Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

Welcome to the forums WIP smile

It's a wiki, anyone (including you) can edit it.

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#3 2017-09-26 14:41:01

Scimmia
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Re: "Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

Notice that Alpine has been removed before, but that change was reverted.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?ti … did=475584

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#4 2017-09-26 15:11:46

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Re: "Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

Afaik they put those dead links in there on purpose simply because "we don't wanna advertise any competitors". Which I find weird

On an other side, is something "Arch based" simply because they use pacman?

EDIT: proof

We don't need to link to irc, forums, social media or other pages for projects. The project homepage should have links to all of those things. The only thing having multiple links per project does is increase their SEO. Meskarune (talk) 20:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

I can be wrong but MediaWiki, that is the software which runs this wiki, doesn't increase SEO of external links by default. It works on Wikipedia, which is built upon MediaWiki so I think it works for ArchWiki too. Even if I'm wrong I think that multiple links is a good idea to ease users' life --Airon90 (talk) 08:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
This page isn't meant to "ease user's life". It's a courtesy towards DeveloperWiki:TrademarkPolicy, and should only include the bare minimum to show the existence of derivates. -- Alad (talk) 12:06, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
I've replaced most links with links to sourceforge. This reduces the effect of marketing, and allows simpler maintenance as the last release is directly visible. -- Alad (talk) 11:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

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#5 2017-09-26 17:13:54

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Re: "Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

Looks like complaints come first, reading comprehension second on this one...

WIP wrote:

Alpine Linux is not at all Arch-based

It's even put in bold right at the beginning of the article:

ArchWiki wrote:

This is a listing of Linux distributions which are derived from Arch Linux either in whole or in part.

So yes, if it uses pacman it's based on Arch. pacman is a project that originated in Arch, as we all know. That doesn't mean when your distribution uses Pacman that you have to use the Arch Linux trademark. It can however still be listed for the sake of interest.

WIP wrote:

the chakra link lead to a sourceforge download page instead

ugjka wrote:

Afaik they put those dead links in there on purpose simply because "we don't wanna advertise any competitors". Which I find weird

It's a wiki page that lists derivates for 1) trademark policy 2) showing how Arch and its projects are used in the wider community. Compare to the "Inactive" section:

ArchWiki wrote:

Inactive. These distributions are no longer developed, but show some of the history surrounding Arch Linux and the greater FOSS community.

"Beautiful websites" are completely irrelevant in either case, and make it harder for wiki editors to distinguish if a derivate is still updated. Sourceforge shows the date of latest activity directly.

Ignoring that important aspect, claiming "we simply don't want to advertise competitors" and that "dead links are put on purpose" -- which they are not, as even the briefest look over the article shows -- is nothing short of FUD. hmm

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#6 2017-09-26 18:13:36

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Re: "Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

So when will the archlinux website be replaced to a link to Sourceforge lol, since that's definately the place to go instead of the official webpage?

...This reduces the effect of marketing...

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#7 2017-09-26 18:28:02

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Re: "Arch based distributions" has to be corrected

ugjka, stop trolling/hijacking. Closing, as OP has an answer.

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