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lilsirecho

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Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

How does one increase the size of hda1   =31MB  and cannot upgrade kernel due to 100% full/boot file in hda1?

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twiistedkaos

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Erm, don't completely understand your question. But just resize the partition to make it bigger?

lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Twisted;

Kermel upgrade fails because there is no space for the data in my /boot file on the hda1 boot partition.

I Have hda2 as the swap file and it is contiguous with hda1.

I assume I can reduce the size of the swap and apply it to the hda1 partition.

I have no experience in doing that on an operating arch system.

I suspect I have to use qtparted from a LiveCD but again no experience with that program.

It requires that the HDD not be mounted which the Live CD can provide.

I may be able to delete hda1 and hda2, then recreate them after first copying my hda1 data to a CD for later re-install.

I assume that the data in Hda1 is valid for the upgrade but it may be corrupted...no way to know!!!

The Hda1 partition is 100% full and the kernel upgrade fails with ...no room left on device....

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twiistedkaos

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Twisted;

Kermel upgrade fails because there is no space for the data in my /boot file on the hda1 boot partition.

I Have hda2 as the swap file and it is contiguous with hda1.

I assume I can reduce the size of the swap and apply it to the hda1 partition.

I have no experience in doing that on an operating arch system.

I suspect I have to use qtparted from a LiveCD but again no experience with that program.

It requires that the HDD not be mounted which the Live CD can provide.

I may be able to delete hda1 and hda2, then recreate them after first copying my hda1 data to a CD for later re-install.

I assume that the data in Hda1 is valid for the upgrade but it may be corrupted...no way to know!!!

The Hda1 partition is 100% full and the kernel upgrade fails with ...no room left on device....

Then yes, you would have to use a livecd to modify and add more space to your hda1 drive. Heres a QTParted manual: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/

lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Thanks for the link...I have examined the qtparted in Knoppix and am not convinced I know how to proceed.

I think that canceling the present partiitions of hda1 and hda2 will get me what will work.  Qtparted in Knoppix makes a remark that hda1 is strange and can't resize!!!

Will examine the linked data and see what might be done.

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iphitus

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

boot a liveCD, remove both partitions, create 2 new partitions in their place. easy.

Beware... you might want to backup /boot before doing that, and you may need to reinstall your bootloader, grub or lilo afterwords.

James

lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Iphitus;

I assume the Live CD , such as PCLinuxOS, which has qtparted can be used to delete the two partitions, while saving the /boot on a CD.
However, to utilize qtparted, the partition must be unmounted.  The system seems to need the swap partition in PCLinuxOS so it cannot be deleted or resized.  The hda1 /boot partition can be deleted and resizing would result after with "create".

It seems I cannot reduce the swap and use the resultant "free" for the /boot partition unless there is a way to address the swap in unmounted mode.

Is this possible?

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lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

It would seem that not all LiveCD/DVD will utilize qtparted to re-size and or delete partitions.

Latest LiveDVD in knoppix uses Unionfs and the swap partition is mounted.  It cannot be deleted or resized while mounted AFAIK.

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lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Perhaps, to correct the sizing of /boot partition, I should generate a new partition from the root partition and make it the active/boot ext2 partition and delete the active status of the hda1 partition?

Will this work?

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iphitus

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Iphitus;

I assume the Live CD , such as PCLinuxOS, which has qtparted can be used to delete the two partitions, while saving the /boot on a CD.
However, to utilize qtparted, the partition must be unmounted.  The system seems to need the swap partition in PCLinuxOS so it cannot be deleted or resized.  The hda1 /boot partition can be deleted and resizing would result after with "create".

It seems I cannot reduce the swap and use the resultant "free" for the /boot partition unless there is a way to address the swap in unmounted mode.

Is this possible?

to disable the swap partition in the liveCD,

swapoff /dev/hdxx

where hdxx is the swap partition.

you dont have to use qtparted either if it isnt available. give cfdisk a shot too, it's practically standard. After creating the new partitions in cfdisk, remember to run mkfs.ext2 and mkswap on the new partitions.

James

lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Makes sense...will try tomorrow..Thanks

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lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Iphitus;

Some success............

Copied Hda1 partition to CD.

Placed HDD in USB IDE slot sda1...

Booted to arch in another HDD in primary IDE slot.

Installed qtparted in this HDD.

Used qtparted to select sda1 and sda2 partitions (each not mounted).

Deleted both partitions with qtparted delete...

Created new 64MB Sda1 ext2 primary partition

Created new Sda2 linux swap partition 223.95MB.......

Ran "commit" and successfully modified the two partitions.

To solve the lilo problem, copied "KONSOLE TERMINAL" from the desktop into sda3 root desktop to permit access to pacman.(Using the GIMMICK arch CD, I do not have any mouse control so must use updown arrows on the desktop to access the terminal)

Shutdown and installed the modified HDD into IDE primary slot.  Inserted arch GIMMICK CD into cdrom and booted to prompt...entered.... vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3..

Booted to desktop moved to terminal and ran ../sbin/lilo -v...successfully.

Rebooted into arch in normal fashion...ran pacman -Scc... pacman -Sy kernel26beyond ...to load a fresh kernel.
Ran /sbin/lilo -v successfully.

Rebooted into kernel beyond and received kernel panic.

Partial success.......
Below is Lilo.conf....
#
# /etc/lilo.conf
#

boot=/dev/hda
# This line often fixes L40 errors on bootup
# disk=/dev/hda bios=0x80

default=arch
timeout=50
lba32
prompt

image=/boot/vmlinuz26
        label=arch
        root=/dev/hda3
        initrd=/boot/initrd26-full.img
        read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz26beyond
        label=2.6.16-beyond
        append="root=/dev/hda3 rootfstype=ext3"
        initrd=/boot/kernel26.img
        read-only

#other=/dev/hda1
#        label=dos

Have trouble with beyond kernels every time....

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iphitus

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Rebooted into kernel beyond and received kernel panic.

and that is.....?

Just looking at your lilo.conf, you have it incorrectly setup. It uses kernel26beyond.img NOT kernel26.img.

James

lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Iphitus;

My oops :oops:   Corrected the Lilo entry and am able to boot to beyond kernel.

Many thanks for your sharp eye and quick reply

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lilsirecho

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

Iphitus;
Researched the source of my error in the Lilo for kernel26beyond.

I direct your attention to the wiki "Configuring mkinitcpio" which is referred to in the "testing" advisory in "arch Linux" by Tpowa.  The lilo listing in that wiki refers to kernel26.img for the beyond kernel.

I thought it strange but what isn't these days and I followed the listing given.

Perhaps a change is needed?

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iphitus

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Re: Boot file on hda1 full( success..partits modified, beyond up

thank you, I fixed the wiki error too.