No sound with ICH5 Intel southbridge..

Belial · 2006-06-09 23:45:18

I can't see why it doesn't work. Alsaconf detected it, it has the same options as my slack install did with alsamixer. (Everything is unmuted correctly and yes the speaker is plugged in correctly...and yes, the volume is turned up.)

All the same steps I did for my slack install were done with my arch install. Still no sound. I even deleted the alsa generated stuff in modprobe.conf as someone suggested.

It'll play the songs, but there just isn't any sound. (At all. System, mp3 players, etc.) I am using kde and I do have artsd off. Which is the same way it was with slackware.

If anyone knows of any problems with Arch and this southbridge, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

kakabaratruskia · 2006-06-10 02:41:30

I have the same system working flawlesly. Post your rc.conf to see if I can help

alikas · 2006-06-10 09:51:43

Can look this topic: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=22242
Some user write:
"This is the way I always have done and it works every time:

1. type alsamixer :: Adjust volumes with it
2. aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav :: Test that it works
3. kmix :: Use KMixer to adjust volume using a GUI if you prefer
4. alsactl store :: Save Settings (as root)
5. edit /etc/rc.conf :: add alsa to the daemons"

Good lock!

Belial · 2006-06-10 11:37:45

# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
#

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# LOCALIZATION
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "UTC" or "localtime"
# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo
# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps
# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)
# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/unimaps
# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages
#
LOCALE="en_US.utf8"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE="Canada/Pacific"
KEYMAP="us"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# HARDWARE
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Scan hardware and load required modules at bootup
MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes"
# Module Blacklist - modules in this list will never be loaded by udev
MOD_BLACKLIST=()
#
# Modules to load at boot-up (in this order)
# - prefix a module with a ! to blacklist it
#
MODULES=()
# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
HOSTNAME="GTA"
#
# Interfaces to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each interface then list in INTERFACES
# - prefix an entry in INTERFACES with a ! to disable it
# - no hyphens in your interface names - Bash doesn't like it
#
# Note: to use DHCP, set your interface to be "dhcp" (eth0="dhcp")
#
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
#
# Routes to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each route then list in ROUTES
# - prefix an entry in ROUTES with a ! to disable it
#
gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
#
# Enable these network profiles at boot-up. These are only useful
# if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
# - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
# - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
MODULES=()
# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
HOSTNAME="GTA"
#
# Interfaces to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each interface then list in INTERFACES
# - prefix an entry in INTERFACES with a ! to disable it
# - no hyphens in your interface names - Bash doesn't like it
#
# Note: to use DHCP, set your interface to be "dhcp" (eth0="dhcp")
#
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="eth0 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
#
# Routes to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each route then list in ROUTES
# - prefix an entry in ROUTES with a ! to disable it
#
gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
#
# Enable these network profiles at boot-up. These are only useful
# if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
# - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
# - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network-profiles
#
#NET_PROFILES=(main)

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
# - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
# - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng !hotplug !pcmcia network netfs crond)

# End of file

user · 2006-06-10 20:13:40

check whether your user account added in "audio" group.

vi /etc/group

and below link helped me it works
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/vi … .html#alsa

ah BTW, FYI
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Alsa_setup

Belial · 2006-06-10 21:18:46

I've tried all of those options so far and I'm just getting absolutely no luck. I'm not sure what else I need to do to get sound working on Arch. It's got to be something really stupid because it will play the songs in any media player and give no error messages but there's just no sound coming out.

iphitus · 2006-06-11 00:31:06

are your speakers plugged into the right port on the back of the computer?

Belial · 2006-06-11 00:51:20

Yes they are. I pretty much covered all the basic and obvious things. Which is why I don't understand. This seems like a basic and/or obvious thing.

user · 2006-06-11 06:56:43

check your kernel module setting.

Linux Kernel v2.6.17-rc6 Configuration
───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
┌──────────────────────────────────────── PCI devices ─────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ Arrow keys navigate the menu. <Enter> selects submenus --->. Highlighted letters are │
│ hotkeys. Pressing <Y> includes, <N> excludes, <M> modularizes features. Press <Esc><Esc> │
│ to exit, <?> for Help, </> for Search. Legend: [*] built-in [ ] excluded <M> module < > │
│ module capable │
│ ┌──────────^(-)────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │
│ │ < > RME Hammerfall DSP MADI │ │
│ │ < > ICEnsemble ICE1712 (Envy24) │ │
│ │ < > ICE/VT1724/1720 (Envy24HT/PT) │ │
│ │ <*> Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller │ │
│ │ < > Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD MC97 Modem (EXPERIMENTAL) │ │
│ │ < > Korg 1212 IO │ │
│ │ < > ESS Allegro/Maestro3 │ │
│ │ < > Digigram miXart │ │
│ │ < > NeoMagic NM256AV/ZX │ │
│ │ < > Digigram PCXHR │ │
│ │ < > Conexant Riptide │ │
│ │ < > RME Digi32, 32/8, 32 PRO │ │
│ │ < > RME Digi96, 96/8, 96/8 PRO │ │
│ │ < > RME Digi9652 (Hammerfall) │ │
│ └──────────v(+)────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ │
├──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ <Select> <Exit> <Help> │
└──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

iphitus · 2006-06-11 07:43:03

user wrote:

check your kernel module setting.
<snip>

want to edit that so it doesnt make the page three browser widths wide?

this is a distro kernel, so that's completely irrelevant anyway, and would have completely different symptoms. If there was no module loaded, or an incorrect module loaded, programs would error out.

There's no errors, programs are appearing to play fine, they just can't be heard.

James

Krux · 2006-06-11 08:07:52

A few obvious solutions:
- check alsamixer once more, see if you can find 6-channel sound option, try to unmute it by hitting 'm' (or 'M') (usually, alsa defaults to mute all sound)
- Try different speakers, might sound totally weird but it helped me once

Next:
Are you using S/PDIF for sound output? Try the earphone output and listen,
maybe there's sound there. It might be so that the volume isn't controlled by your chip but by something else.
Try unmuting your headphone in alsamixer. Maybe that will work.

<I>

Belial · 2006-06-11 14:31:36

There is certain things in alsamixer that will let me unmute them, but not adjust volume. (It stays at 0) I think this might be the problem as there seems to be one or two them that were turned up in Slackware (when my sound worked) but aren't in Arch.

Is there any way to adjust the volume settings on these things or what?

Krux · 2006-06-12 07:14:56

Toggle between 'm' and 'M'(< shift + m) to unmute (you'll see a black square turned into yellow) and adjust the volumes with your up- and down-keys on your keyboard. Make sure you have a look at the utmost right corner of alsamixer. You'll find your headphone/6-channel sound settings there (afaik :], I'm not at home atm)

Belial · 2006-06-28 13:33:35

I know it's been sometime since I've last updated anyone on this subject, but I just got back from vacation.

Sound still doesn't work. I just went through the wiki about 100 times and it's still not playing.

I'm starting to think that there's a level inside of alsamixer that either isn't enabled or it's one that isn't letting me adjust volume on. (I have a few that are stuck at 0 but they're unmuted.) Does anyone think this might be part of the problem?

alikas · 2006-06-28 15:59:19

Belial,
What is yuo sound card?

Belial · 2006-06-28 16:23:24

it's an onboard intel soundmax. ich5 southbridge ad1980. the modules are loaded from what i can see and everything gets detected from alsaconf. the module is intel8x0.

alikas · 2006-06-28 19:04:32

Yes, intel8x0 is in this link: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/in … tel#matrix
First write 'alsamixer'.
If it will be open, then yuo saund must work, may need just adjust and unmute volume.
If it not open write in terminal: 'modprobe snd-intel8x0', and then 'alsamixer', and with 'M' key unmute two first volume regulators, and adjust it volume with up and down keys.
Then do what say in wiki about alsa, if yuo wnat, that every time after restart computer not need be write 'modprobe snd-intel8x0'.
If yuo hear noise then playing sound, goto system, sound, hardware and choose 'Open sound' or something similary.

Belial · 2006-06-28 20:14:58

I've tried that. I even have modprobe snd-intel8x0 in /etc/modprobe.conf along with whatever the wiki said to include.

I know the sound is actually working, I'm just not hearing it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the hardware or the headphones because it was just working on Slackware.

I'm not sure what is there is.

alikas · 2006-06-29 05:33:40

1 Yuo can try install Kubuntu.
2 Add to butom of '/etc/modules' 'snd-intel8x0'.
3 Restart computer (or write 'modprobe snd-intel8x0' and with 'alsamixer' ajust volume, that not be need restart computer).
4 Adjust volume with 'alsamixer' or mixer from multimedia.
5 If yuo hear noise, then goto, if I not wrong, system > sound > tab hardware.
6 Choose not 'auto detect' in tab hardware, but something 'open treaded'.

Or can try play wav files, because may yuo do not have mp3 or other plugins, not mp3 or ogg.
Install KDE ('pacman -S kde', can install only kde base and kde multimedia, then type 'exec startkde') and goto system > sound.
Then click on button 'test sound'.
And yuo must hear music.

And yuo '/etc/rc.conf', not corect, if it not updated.
Modules must look that: 'MODULES=(!usbserial snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0)'
Daemons: 'DAEMONS=(syslog-ng !hotplug !pcmcia network netfs crond alsa)'
Good lock!

Belial · 2006-06-29 23:19:12

I guess it's just not happening. I appreciate all the help but it's just still not working. I still have a feeling it has something to do with a volume control in alsamixer that isn't letting me turn it up. If anyone one here is using an ICH5 southbridge and has some information or ways to figure out the problem I'd appreciate it.

I'd really don't want to leave Arch but if I can't get sound working it's going to be hard to stay.

test1000 · 2006-06-30 00:05:28

Your's not supposed to have ANYTHING in /etc/modprobe.conf.

your supposed to put it in the MODULES array in /etc/rc.conf.
You can't have read many wikis if you didn't know this...

also have you upgraded recently? maybe the switch to mkinitcpio would lessen the amount of kernel modules loaded if that was the problem(sometime kernel modules atleast in theory conflict).

lastly: lsmod|grep snd.

if everythings playing fine though.. just leave xmms open with a song on repeat and open alsamixer and mess around.
If it really is an entry that is missing maybe amixer will help.

amixer sset Master 25 pvolume
to set Master vol for example, and
amixer

to get a listing of all channels and capabilitis.
then ofc: amixer --help is useful...

Belial · 2006-06-30 01:13:14

From the ArchLinux alsa wiki:

Even though your drivers are installed correctly, and your volume is right, and nothing is muted, you might not hear anything! Adding the following line to /etc/modprobe.conf fixes this problem (with the via82xx driver, at least).
options snd-NAME-OF-MODULE ac97_quirk=0

Here's what I get from the lsmod:

snd_seq_oss 31360 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6528 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 50256 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 6796 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 37664 0
snd_mixer_oss 16128 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_intel8x0 29084 0
snd_ac97_codec 93216 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 2304 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 76292 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 19972 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 45924 9 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 7776 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 8072 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

I'll keep messing with it. Try your suggestions. Thanks for the help.

alikas · 2006-06-30 04:09:15

Belial wrote:

I guess it's just not happening. I appreciate all the help but it's just still not working. I still have a feeling it has something to do with a volume control in alsamixer that isn't letting me turn it up. If anyone one here is using an ICH5 southbridge and has some information or ways to figure out the problem I'd appreciate it.
I'd really don't want to leave Arch but if I can't get sound working it's going to be hard to stay.

Did yuo can not turn up volume with alsamixer with up key? Try pres key '9'.
Yuo can try turn volume control with KDE, not console, mixer.
Maybe with mouse yuo can turn up volume.

I recomendate install yuo, or Dman Small Linux 50 MB, that automatily detect my sound card while other linux no, maybe and yuo sound card automaticly will detect.
Or Slackware, because it possible download trouth ftp, may, from yuo country (from my county possible download) and speed can be about 200 KB/s while from other country speed can be about 10 KB/s.
I hear that Slackware fast and good.
And possible install many Desktop Environments from Slackware compact disk.

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No sound with ICH5 Intel southbridge..

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