Suggestions on how to find the source of multiple browser crashing pro

CPUnltd · 2017-12-05 06:53:23

So I've had this issue with my browsers crashing that has systematically gotten worse over the years. If anyone can direct me on what I can look into to fix this, I would sincerely appreciate it. Linking to YouTube video of actual footage of the crashing recorded and upload for me. This happens for me all the time on Chrome, fairly often on Firefox and gone from bothersome to occasionally unusable on Vivaldi. Footage is of Vivaldi.

https://youtu.be/EPz11RP3MVE

Unsure of wher to start and Google has not been my friend in this particular journey. Feel free to so questions and I'll provide any information that I can which is requested of me.

Thanks in advance!

V1del · 2017-12-05 08:40:44

What hardware, particularly how much RAM? Have you already checked your dmesg? Have you gotten a coredump? Terminal output of affected browsers during the crash? Have you tried my suggestions in your earlier thread already?

In general if you only have 4GB of RAM (or worse less) then this will be borderline unfixable unless facebook decides to make a "light" version of itself. Blame facebook, or upgrade your hardware. When I'm on facebook and I do apply the rlimit ignore parameter, it is not uncommon for the facebook tab/process to take up 2GB of RAM. This is how facebook allocates its resources and no browser in the world will be able to "perform better or use less RAM" unless you use something that lacks the features to render facebook properly.

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seth · 2017-12-05 09:25:58

Here we go again ... https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=232021
The page loads, then the browser crashes. As we figured in the other thread, this is fartbook specific and the behavior suggest it's by some script triggered onload.
I don't have a fartbook account, but https://www.google.com/search?q=chromium+facebook+crash produces https://productforums.google.com/forum/ … ckDchXAQAJ as first result which links https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/is … ?id=708801 - seems a fairly common issue.

Vivaldi and chromium are virtually the same browser. The claim about firefox suggests the culprit is fartbook (yes, you can do inifinite recursions and other broken shit in ECMA)

https://www.facebook.com/help/community … 0097773421 suggests that https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta … eohkohdgbb can mitigate this, maybe it's due to adds. Idk. Please fix your OP - your problem seems to be with fartbook exclusively.

And for the records: my last comment on the other thread did not imply to not use fartbook but to tell them to fix their shit.

CPUnltd · 2017-12-05 17:39:18

@V1del: I mostly use laptops, but this was a problem on my desktop as well (which I haven't used in a while, admittedly). The laptops usually have a max of 4GB of RAM. The one I was on at the time, I do beleve had 6GB, but I will verify today/tonight. The desktop that this has happened on has 32GB of RAM. I will check dmesg and get a coredump so I can provide more info. I had this info ready at one point, but lost the file I'd copied it to. I usually save stuff like that as a text file with leafpad for later dissection and easy copy/pasting from browser to browser, but I think I shut down without saving the file that particular day, because I can't seem to find it by any name that I would have saved it under. I'm thinking the problem could be somewhat different on each machine given that I've had this happen on so many different builds, so I may need to check each machine indivduallly. The one I'm on does not have Vivaldi because it's 32 bit and not supported. I'd love to only blame Facebook for this, but it also happens often in Gmail. Other sites are pretty random that it happens with (from my memory at the moment, mostly because Facebook and Gmail are where I spend a good portion of my time handling necessary daily tasks. I'm now also wondering if it could be a cache issue of some sort. I will also watch for this issue occuring on other sites besides Facebook and make sure no Facebook tabs are open... as it could be a ripple affect from Facebook taking over the RAM. Admittedly, the system hasn't slowed down to a crawl or become unusable and required a forced reboot since my original post. But I've been pretty good about keeping tab numbers down and closing Facebook when not needed, so those may be signs pointing to the same problem.

@seth, I'm not going about this the same as before, so it's not really a "here we go again" type of scenario. I'd like to actually solve this problem or minimize usage of the culprit if it is, indeed just Facebook. I wish that my scenario wasn't so anecdotal and more people were actually experiencing this to the degreee that I am, but who knows. The provided video is using Facebook as an example because I happened to be having that recurring crash at that time and wanted to provide a recording. The video shows the exact problem, IMHO, much better than any description could offer. The main pages that have this problem are Facebook and Gmail. I have to play around with things to see if it happens exclusively with Gmail when there is no Facebook tab open which will let me know whether or not the problem is beyond Facebook. I also plan on checking to see if the problem goes away on other sites if Facebook is open at the time of the problem then closed. I'm not on a computer at the moment that I can test these on or dump the info requested, so I will try to make it a point to do that from my better laptop later today/tonight. I, sincerely wish to get to the bottom of this or come to the conclusion after actually trying to fix it that it's unfixable and be able to find a way to move forward and work around this issue.

The only reason I, honestly, hadn't looked up Chrome crashing is because I was hoping it was either an issue somewhat exclusive to Vivaldi, or that others with Vivaldi had come across this issue and posted about it. Also, since it's not exclusive (for me) to Facebook, I didn't want to focus my research on Facebook. But I will read further into all of this and see if I can find a solution I can live with. I'll be back later with the coredump and dmesg info requested before.

seth · 2017-12-05 22:00:21

The video shows an icon of a crashed browser process, iow "nothing". And on fartbook.
https://developers.google.com/web/tools … avascript/ explains how to debug ECMAscript (the likely bug in the demonstration) in chromium but be aware (if you're not already) that the internet is full of "facebook crashes <my browser> on <my operating system>"
Apparently that's not trivially fixed and, as a general rule: if facebook regularily crashes every browser on every OS that does not mean all browsers and all OS are broken.

I've personally never seen gmail crashing and have a hard time believing it would crash blink (the chromium/vivaldi engine) out of all engines, but it provides a "simple html" interface - if that helps you anything.
https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-switch- … ew-4048467

CPUnltd · 2017-12-08 02:09:26

I've done the switch to basic view for Gmail. To be honest, there's a lot of functionality that I value in the standard gmail interface. As of the last few days, I've had a more stable experience on Pale Moon with both Gmail and Facebook on my more powerful laptop (can't seem to get Pale Moon to install on my older one, but it's 32 bit and I know support for that is cut off. I'll read through the links you provided in the last couple of responses when I have time (hopefully on Monday) and see if anything there ends up being of use to my situation. Thank you.

I haven't forgotten about your response, V1del... I'll likely get back to you at that time as well.

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Suggestions on how to find the source of multiple browser crashing pro

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