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#1 2006-07-05 19:20:07
- mdv
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frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
Hi!
What is your opinion about frugalware package policy: every package belongs to a group. Should it be implemented in arch or not? What are pros and cons?
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#2 2006-07-05 19:38:06
- sweiss
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
It depends on the reason they use it for. I think groups were created in order to easily install/uninstall a certain piece of software, rather than a certain type of software.
I'm not sure if that's the way frugalware uses it, but having each package in a certain group sounds to me like missing the real advantage of package grouping.
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#3 2006-07-05 19:54:42
- hypermegachi
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
pros? it's organized.
cons? it's not practical.
install the group network from frugal and you'll end up with all the network daemons like apache, mysql, postgresql, postfix which you don't need unless you're a server.
install the xorg group and you have everything in xorg, which 90% of you don't use.
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#4 2006-07-05 20:20:25
- Gullible Jones
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
It seems inane to me. Some package simply don't belong to a given group.
(Of course, the way Frugalware implements it could be part of my problem. All due respect to the Frugalware devs - it is an excellent distro and has great support - but the grouping of a lot of packages is quite inane and conducive to bloat.)
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#5 2006-07-05 20:26:04
- allucid
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
I like the way gentoo does package categories. Of course, gentoo has about a bazillon packages to manage so that may be the only way to sanely handle them.
It is also nice when you are searching for a specific type of application or just to browse all the packages that belong to a category. For example, you can browse the media-sound category if you are looking to find a new music player.
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#6 2006-07-05 21:00:46
- lumiwa
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
I like groups too. I think it stay from SuSE and Debian.
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#7 2006-07-05 21:18:22
- deficite
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
Arch handles this fine. Next question.
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#8 2006-07-05 21:26:11
- Galdona
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
deficite, i have noticed that you have a tendency to be... belligerent.
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#9 2006-07-05 22:25:52
- soloport
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
deficite, i have noticed that you have a tendency to be... belligerent.
It's not his fault. It's just very hot and muggy in Tennessee.
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#10 2006-07-06 06:24:23
- deficite
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Re: frugalware "every package belongs to a group"
I'm not belligerent, shut up.
I come off as belligerent to many people in real life as well. It's just part of the process of getting to know me. I'm really a pretty nice and easy-going person 
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