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#1 2018-01-26 17:11:53

sanjaychak01
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variety has no tray icon in wayland

Is anyone running variety wallpaper changer in a wayland session? I do not see a tray icon. It shows up fine on Xorg.


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#2 2018-01-26 17:21:48

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

"Wayland" doesn't have a globally changeable root window. This will have to have support specifically within the Wayland implementations and I doubt that this works in any single one of them.

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#3 2018-01-26 21:51:12

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

Appindicator support is removed in gnome 3.26, which is why the icon does not appear. However you can get this back with a couple of extensions and relevant libraries.

Specifically, you will need 2 extensions,

(k)status notifier/appindicator support  -- on aur as gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-git
topicons plus -- on aur as gnome-shell-extension-topicons-plus(-git)

if you prefer to install the extensions from extensions.gnome.org you will also need to install libappindicator-(gtk2/gtk3/sharp)

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#4 2018-01-26 21:56:03

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

@radiomike

None of that changes the fact that the actual variety application won't work with wayland. This isn't an appindicator issue.


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#5 2018-01-26 22:24:08

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

Works for me under Gnome running on Wayland

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#6 2018-01-27 06:17:56

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

radiomike wrote:

Appindicator support is removed in gnome 3.26, which is why the icon does not appear. However you can get this back with a couple of extensions and relevant libraries.

Specifically, you will need 2 extensions,

Thanks a lot, @radiomike. I will try these out.


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#7 2018-01-27 06:43:08

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

sanjaychak01 wrote:
radiomike wrote:

Appindicator support is removed in gnome 3.26, which is why the icon does not appear. However you can get this back with a couple of extensions and relevant libraries.

Specifically, you will need 2 extensions,

Thanks a lot, @radiomike. I will try these out.

That did not work. TopIcons Plus was already installed as a GNOME extension. I installed the other extension through AUR. Here is the pacman output

[sanjay@ananda-arch ~]$ pacman -Q | grep appindi
gnome-shell-extension-appindicator-git 1:21+2+g7863517-1
libappindicator-gtk2 12.10.0-12
libappindicator-gtk3 12.10.0-12
libappindicator-sharp 12.10.0-12

But, variety icon is still eluding.


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#8 2018-02-22 11:41:07

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

Same issue for me. It works on X11 on nearly identical hardware. The main difference being it doesn't work with a Radeon and Wayland. It works on X11 with a GeForce.

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#9 2018-02-22 13:26:25

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

I had to switch back to X11 owing to this and other issues. I felt wayland is a little more responsive so I did not want to switch back to X11. But I guess it cannot be helped.


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#10 2018-02-22 14:19:36

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

One of the fundamental reasons for wayland in the first place was the belief that X11 had grown bloated.  It was full of ugly kludges to deal with a bunch of things that the wayland developers didn't think were worth doing.  So wayland only does a ridiculously trivial subset of what X does: it's easy to be more responsive when it does so much less.


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#11 2018-02-22 16:46:54

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Re: variety has no tray icon in wayland

Trilby wrote:

One of the fundamental reasons for wayland in the first place was the belief that X11 had grown bloated.  It was full of ugly kludges to deal with a bunch of things that the wayland developers didn't think were worth doing.  So wayland only does a ridiculously trivial subset of what X does: it's easy to be more responsive when it does so much less.

Absolutely agree. But it will find widespread use only when it supports all the use models people have got used to using X. At the moment, certain tray icons are absent. Synaptics devices are not detected. Mouse gestures don't work. Etc. etc. I hope there is a roadmap for the support of such use models. And if not, at least alternative use models to effect the same things.


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