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#1 2018-05-04 14:21:30

twelveeighty
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[SOLVED] linux-firmware 20180416.b562d2f-1 CPU fan problems

After 'pacman -Syu', an update of linux-firmware to 20180416.b562d2f-1 makes my laptop's CPU fan control be very "nervous". The fan spikes to high RPMs every 2-3 seconds, with only the slightest increase in CPU load. It almost feels like the fan control only has a 0% and 100%  setting and nothing in between anymore. Downgrading to 20180314.4c0bf11-1 fixes the issue.

I'm on a Toshiba laptop and fan control has never been a problem before, so I've never had a need for lm-sensors. Fan speed with the downgraded firmware has proper correlation between fan speed and CPU load.

I'm guessing this is an upstream issue, but for this package it's not really obvious where to report these. Any ideas?

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#2 2018-05-04 18:33:58

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Re: [SOLVED] linux-firmware 20180416.b562d2f-1 CPU fan problems

Humm firmware is something hardware manufacturers provide. So I would suppose you have to look up your laptop or its components online. I have no clue where would one provide firmware bugreports.

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#3 2018-05-04 19:18:36

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Re: [SOLVED] linux-firmware 20180416.b562d2f-1 CPU fan problems

Can you determine which firmware file is responsible for the issue?
Edit:
firmwares that differ between the two releases

usr/lifirmware/amdgpu/polaris10_vce.bin
usr/lifirmware/amdgpu/polaris11_vce.bin
usr/lifirmware/amdgpu/polaris12_vce.bin
usr/lifirmware/cxgb4/t4fw.bin
usr/lifirmware/cxgb4/t5fw.bin
usr/lifirmware/cxgb4/t6fw.bin
usr/lifirmware/intel/dsp_fw_bxtn.bin
usr/lifirmware/intel/dsp_fw_glk.bin
usr/lifirmware/intel/dsp_fw_kbl.bin
usr/lifirmware/intel/dsp_fw_release.bin
usr/lifirmware/intel/ibt-11-5.sfi
usr/lifirmware/intel/ibt-12-16.sfi
usr/lifirmware/intel/ibt-17-16-1.sfi
usr/lifirmware/intel/ibt-17-2.sfi
usr/lifirmware/intel/ibt-18-16-1.sfi
usr/lifirmware/intel/ibt-18-2.sfi
usr/lifirmware/iwlwifi-3160-17.ucode
usr/lifirmware/iwlwifi-3168-29.ucode
usr/lifirmware/iwlwifi-7260-17.ucode
usr/lifirmware/iwlwifi-7265-17.ucode
usr/lifirmware/iwlwifi-7265D-29.ucode
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0081-0001_1x40.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0081-0001_4x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0096-0001_2x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0097-0001_2x40.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0097-0001_4x10_1x40.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0097-0001_8x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0099-0001_1x10_1x25.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0099-0001_2x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0099-0001_2x25.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0081-0001_1x40.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0081-0001_4x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0096-0001_2x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0097-0001_2x40.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0097-0001_4x10_1x40.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0097-0001_8x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0099-0001_1x10_1x25.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0099-0001_2x10.nffw
usr/lifirmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0099-0001_2x25.nffw
usr/lifirmware/rsi/rs9113_wlan_qspi.rps
usr/lifirmware/wil6210.brd
usr/lifirmware/wil6210.fw

firmwares only in the new release

usr/lib/firmware/cxgb4/t4fw-1.18.9.0.bin
usr/lib/firmware/cxgb4/t5fw-1.18.9.0.bin
usr/lib/firmware/cxgb4/t6fw-1.18.9.0.bin
usr/lib/firmware/intel/dsp_fw_bxtn_v3366.bin
usr/lib/firmware/intel/dsp_fw_glk_v3366.bin
usr/lib/firmware/intel/dsp_fw_kbl_v3402.bin
usr/lib/firmware/intel/dsp_fw_release_v3402.bin
usr/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-8000C-36.ucode
usr/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-8265-36.ucode
usr/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode
usr/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-9260-th-b0-jf-b0-38.ucode
usr/lib/firmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0058-0011_2x40.nffw
usr/lib/firmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0058-0012_2x40.nffw
usr/lib/firmware/netronome/nic/nic_AMDA0078-0011_1x100.nffw
usr/lib/firmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0058-0011_2x40.nffw
usr/lib/firmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0058-0012_2x40.nffw
usr/lib/firmware/netronome/nic_AMDA0078-0011_1x100.nffw
usr/lib/firmware/rsi/rs9113_ap_bt_dual_mode.rps
usr/lib/firmware/rsi/rs9113_wlan_bt_dual_mode.rps

firmwares only in the older release

usr/lib/firmware/cxgb4/t4fw-1.17.14.0.bin
usr/lib/firmware/cxgb4/t5fw-1.17.14.0.bin
usr/lib/firmware/cxgb4/t6fw-1.17.14.0.bin

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#4 2018-05-04 21:45:02

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Re: [SOLVED] linux-firmware 20180416.b562d2f-1 CPU fan problems

@loqs: thanks for the diffs, that puts me at least on the track of finding something. I would hope that all the NIC, Wifi and Bluetooth firmware additions/changes (which are the majority of the differences) could not have caused this problem?

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#5 2018-05-04 22:45:25

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Re: [SOLVED] linux-firmware 20180416.b562d2f-1 CPU fan problems

@twelveeighty agreed I would leave those until all other firmwares have rules out as the cause.

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#6 2018-05-09 19:00:33

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Re: [SOLVED] linux-firmware 20180416.b562d2f-1 CPU fan problems

I updated today and noticed that there was a new version of intel-ucode, so, as a test, I had 'pacman -Syu' update linux-firmware as well, since maybe there's a relationship between microcode and firmware...? Anyway, problem seems to be gone now in my case. I'll watch it for a few days and mark the thread solved if it's holding up.

Here is the latest pacman update that seemed to fix it:

[2018-05-09 12:44] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman --color=auto -Syu'
[2018-05-09 12:44] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2018-05-09 12:44] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade
[2018-05-09 12:44] [ALPM] running '70-dkms-remove.hook'...
[2018-05-09 12:44] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove vboxhost/5.2.10_OSE -k 4.16.6-1-ARCH
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] transaction started
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded tzdata (2018d-1 -> 2018e-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded glibc (2.27-2 -> 2.27-3)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Generating locales...
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   en_US.UTF-8... done
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Generation complete.
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded binutils (2.30-3 -> 2.30-4)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded gcc-libs (7.3.1+20180406-1 -> 8.1.0-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded libgpg-error (1.29-1 -> 1.31-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded cryptsetup (2.0.2-1 -> 2.0.3-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded dbus (1.12.6-1 -> 1.12.8-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded libpsl (0.20.1-2 -> 0.20.2-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded librsvg (2:2.42.3-1 -> 2:2.42.4-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded libtirpc (1.0.3-1 -> 1.0.3-2)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded flashplugin (29.0.0.140-1 -> 29.0.0.171-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded gcc (7.3.1+20180406-1 -> 8.1.0-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded hdf5 (1.10.1-2 -> 1.10.1-3)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded intel-ucode (20180312-1 -> 20180425-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded js52 (52.7.3-1 -> 52.7.3-2)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded kwallet-pam (5.12.5-2 -> 5.12.5-3)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded libsoup (2.62.1-1 -> 2.62.2-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded libtool (2.4.6+40+g6ca5e224-5 -> 2.4.6+40+g6ca5e224-6)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded libuv (1.20.2-1 -> 1.20.3-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded linux-firmware (20180314.4c0bf11-1 -> 20180416.b562d2f-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded linux (4.16.6-1 -> 4.16.7-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded linux-headers (4.16.6-1 -> 4.16.7-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded mesa (18.0.2-1 -> 18.0.3-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded nodejs (10.0.0-1 -> 10.1.0-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded pcsclite (1.8.23-2 -> 1.8.23-3)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded pinentry (1.1.0-2 -> 1.1.0-3)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded python-packaging (16.8-2 -> 17.1-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded python2 (2.7.14-3 -> 2.7.15-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded python2-packaging (16.8-2 -> 17.1-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded uglify-js (3.3.23-1 -> 3.3.24-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded webkit2gtk (2.20.1-1 -> 2.20.2-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded wget (1.19.4-3 -> 1.19.5-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] upgraded xterm (332-1 -> 333-1)
[2018-05-09 12:45] [ALPM] transaction completed

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