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#1 2006-07-15 03:51:12

deficite
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#2 2006-07-15 03:59:39

McQueen
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Re: ntfs-3g

Yeah, I was just reading that...
BTW, is NTFS the default file system on Vista?


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#3 2006-07-15 06:51:04

Neuro
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Re: ntfs-3g

A short: wow.

Especially regarding the performance.

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#4 2006-07-15 09:28:23

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Re: ntfs-3g

Already built that, and it's really damn fast!


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#5 2006-07-15 09:41:51

tmadhavan
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Re: ntfs-3g

Forgive my ignorance, but is NTFS useful purely for compatibility with Windows partitions? I know support has been strived for a while...

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#6 2006-07-15 09:41:55

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Re: ntfs-3g

I used it successfully, too big_smile

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#7 2006-07-15 10:43:42

s0lar
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Re: ntfs-3g

I guess you could also use it on your linuxpartitions now.

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#8 2006-07-15 10:50:12

scarecrow
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Re: ntfs-3g

s0lar wrote:

I guess you could also use it on your linuxpartitions now.

No metadata and quota handling, and partition size isn't reported correctly... so no, not really yet- but still it's a driver that really works.


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#9 2006-07-15 12:11:14

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Re: ntfs-3g

Wouldn't you succumb to defragging every now and then if you use ntfs for linux partitions?

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#10 2006-07-15 12:20:30

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Re: ntfs-3g

Its in AUR... http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?d … s=0&SeB=nd

Didn't try it yet but looks ok.

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#11 2006-07-15 12:57:29

Gullible Jones
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Re: ntfs-3g

marteus wrote:

Wouldn't you succumb to defragging every now and then if you use ntfs for linux partitions?

Fragmentation happens with NTFS but not all that much.

And yes, it's the filesystem for Vista... That WinFS thing would have been a layer on top of it using SQL Server.

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#12 2006-07-17 14:24:11

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Re: ntfs-3g

fragmentation happens with nearly every filesystem, including the most used ext3 (yes, fragmentation is slow, but it is there, it's not because there is no defragmenter that we don't have fragmentation)

(Ps: there is an ext2 defragmenter but you'll need to port your ext3 to ext2, then defragment and then port ext2 to ext3 again...)


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#13 2006-07-17 15:00:57

scarecrow
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Re: ntfs-3g

profoX wrote:

(Ps: there is an ext2 defragmenter but you'll need to port your ext3 to ext2, then defragment and then port ext2 to ext3 again...)

You may be referring to the old O@O defrag for Linux, which was dropped because noone ever got interested in buying a license... and that because the fragmentation encountered in ext* and reiserfs filesystems is marginal at best, and not affecting system performance.
Even under windoze (with NTFS), registry fragmentation is affecting system performance way more than filesystem fragmentation.
Disk defraggers for windoze are still popular, because they were some time ago (when FAT32 was the only option), and because everyone gets a *pirated* defragger for free, and has no time checking if it is of any use to him!  tongue
Or, to be short: even NTFS needs defragging the MFT and pagefile every 15 months or so, and no more than that.


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#14 2006-07-17 18:23:02

Gullible Jones
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Re: ntfs-3g

If you use tail-packing on ReiserFS, you can get fragmentation that affects system performance... Other than that it's not a huge problem.

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