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#1 2018-06-03 07:11:05

OverSu
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[Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

Hello everyone,

I'm a newbie on Arch and also on any command-line installation linux.
I would like to know more about linue by install it by myself, in order to understand "under the hood" stuff.

After follow a lot of tutorial (FR and EN) via the official wiki - I heard a lot about the old outdated tutorial so I didn't try them - I'm stuck around the Xorg and the Desktop Env. settings.

startx show me a white console and my mouse is working.
But after installed xfce4, when I run it, I have a blackscreen and a report into log.

#1 - How can I upload my log from commandline to pastebin-like in order to show you ?
#2 - I have a lot of warning about /usr/share/fonts/* folders (seems normal ?)
#3 - Some errors :

- Failed to load module "nv" ===========> But I have installed it
- Failed to load module "fbdev"
- Failed to load module "vesa"

From now, I have installed nv and nvidia. Maybe it's the bug...

Any idea? Maybe should I remove all drivers and start again ?
My idea is simple, make it work even with some install/remove/twek ect. When I can make it work and understand everything, I would like to remove Archlinux and reinstall it properly with my new-understanding wink

Thanks again !

Last edited by OverSu (2018-06-03 14:02:41)

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#2 2018-06-03 07:17:30

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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Li … in_clients

Please paste your pacman.log, xinitrc and Xorg log.


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#3 2018-06-03 07:23:22

OverSu
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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

Thanks for the quick tip. wink

https://ptpb.pw/ydp9       =        /var/log/Xorg.0.log
https://ptpb.pw/V6ec      =         /var/log.pacman.log
https://ptpb.pw/-_cm      =         ~/.xinitrc

Please, ignore the last lines - I tried Gnome to see if it was a Xorg issue or a xfce4 issue.

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#4 2018-06-03 07:46:53

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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

You're running xf86-video-nouveau and that crashes (maybe related to the ABI change in xog 1.20)
Nvidia has (afaik) yet not come up with a 1.20 compatible version of the 340xx series (the driver for your GPU), so your best choice atm. is the modesetting driver which should be in use when removing xf86-video-nouveau.

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#5 2018-06-03 08:07:19

OverSu
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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

modesetting driver ?
So for now, I should remove nouveau and nvidia ?

I remember something, when I start some linux distribution - not all - I had to edeit grub in order to add "nomodeset" on it. To be honnest, never know why...

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#6 2018-06-03 08:10:07

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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

So for now, I should remove nouveau and nvidia ?

Yes.

edeit grub in order to add "nomodeset"

Totally unrelated and that parameter will break GUI sessions altogether, so don't.

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#7 2018-06-03 08:25:39

OverSu
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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

Ok everything is cleaned for now.

But what about "modesetting driver" ?
I mean, there are no more driver now. So xfce4 can't run, isn't ?

Here is the new one: https://ptpb.pw/Dc3J

Last edited by OverSu (2018-06-03 08:31:16)

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#8 2018-06-03 08:48:18

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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

Nothing is cleaned:

  2630.464] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  340.106  Tue Jan  9 14:21:56 PST 2018
[  2630.464] (II) Applying OutputClass "nvidia" to /dev/dri/card0
[  2630.464] 	loading driver: nvidia
[  2630.464] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0
[  2630.464] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1
[  2630.464] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 2
[  2630.464] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 3
[  2630.464] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 4
[  2630.464] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 5
[  2630.464] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[  2630.464] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[  2630.464] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[  2630.465] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[  2630.465] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[  2630.465] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[  2630.465] ================ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING ================
[  2630.465] This server has a video driver ABI version of 24.0 that this
driver does not officially support.  Please check
http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver updates or downgrade to an X
server with a supported driver ABI.
[  2630.465] =================================================================

Remove all nvidia packages until nvidia provides a ddx driver compatible with the latest Xorg ABI.

The modesetting driver is shipped with the kernel and operates on an interface to the nouveau kernel module. It doesn't run xfce, but Xorg (the X11 implementation).

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#9 2018-06-03 08:52:57

OverSu
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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

When I'm trying to remove these package with

pacman -Rs

I have :

target not found for nvidia-340xx, nvidia, xf86-video-nv and xf86-video-nouveau

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#10 2018-06-03 08:55:47

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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

pacman -Qs nvidia

Also reboot (the nvidia kenel module is probably still loaded, "lsmod | grep nvidia")

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#11 2018-06-03 09:08:02

OverSu
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Re: [Solved][?] Xorg and XFCE

There were some nvidia-utils things left.
And a reboot made it work !

Like what, follow tutorial - even official - isn't the better way to learn.

Now I will try to configure my XFCE, with user management which is not here, auto launch, fonts, etc.
Thanks again for the help.

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