systeme freezing and become slow (NTFS)

hazote · 2018-06-03 20:56:39

Hi,
I'm on a fresh install of arch on a del 7577 laptop.
running very good.
today I install TLP, and do some customization.

tonight, I was copying file from my NAS by samba/pcmanfm , and all became freezy: sometimes nothing respond, I have to wait 10s or more to get back control.

I try to reboot and get a "running a stop job for /home" (during 10min).
I stopped this by hard shutdown pc.

since this systeme is slow : at boot I must wait 10-20 s for the opening of pcmanfm. (proc and ram is free)

how to check the probleme ?

thanks

journalctl : https://framadrop.org/r/224RLi6137#ge8a … FaFvUMyWQ=

systemctl --failed

return no "failed"

Last edited by hazote (2018-06-09 06:09:44)

jasonwryan · 2018-06-03 21:18:18

Uninstall TLP and try and reproduce.

Moving to NC...

hazote · 2018-06-03 21:54:23

perhaps a little better, but when I try to copy from NAS (with filezilla) many file ( 90 Go)
, system continu to get stucky:

free -mt
              total       used      free     shared tamp/cache   disponible
Mem:          15908        1158         151         235       14598       14236
Partition d'échange:        4095          13        4082
Total:        20004        1171        4233

top
PID UTIL.     PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM    TEMPS+ COM.       
 2374 youb      20   0 1225572 111752  48312 S  30,5   0,7   6:07.07 filezilla  
 1585 root      20   0   17420   4192   2284 D  17,5   0,0   3:35.25 mount.ntfs 
  446 root      20   0  521784  55392  44556 S   5,0   0,3   1:06.36 Xorg       
 2597 youb      20   0  563112  49344  28196 S   4,0   0,3   0:03.40 sakura     
   88 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   1,7   0,0   0:10.22 kswapd0

edit: try te reboot, and see:
pc slow, all action is too long for openning application, or action (close, ~3s to change panel in pcmanfm)
if I open 3 filemanger and try to close it by right click on tint2, i get a terminate signal

another test: opening a dual panel in pcmanfm, click on folder on right panel, immediately click on folder on left panel: systeme freeze 1-2s before opening folder on left panel.
I havent all this symptom this morning

My laptop is on Ac, So tlp should not be involved

Last edited by hazote (2018-06-04 05:55:46)

seth · 2018-06-04 07:45:18

"Filezilla" means an ftp connection?
Did you try to copy to the ntfs mount?
Output of

mount

?

I guess you also have a windows installation?

dmesg | grep -i ntfs

hazote · 2018-06-04 12:07:25

seth wrote:

"Filezilla" means an ftp connection?
Did you try to copy to the ntfs mount?
Output of
mount
?

Yes FTP, or samba same résult

proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
dev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,nosuid,relatime,size=8138380k,nr_inodes=2034595,mode=755)
run on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,mode=755)
efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
/dev/nvme0n1p7 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000)
tmpfs on /sys/fs/cgroup type tmpfs (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=755)
cgroup2 on /sys/fs/cgroup/unified type cgroup2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,xattr,name=systemd)
pstore on /sys/fs/pstore type pstore (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
bpf on /sys/fs/bpf type bpf (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,mode=700)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls,net_prio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls,net_prio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/perf_event type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,perf_event)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpu,cpuacct)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuset)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,freezer)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/rdma type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,rdma)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/hugetlb type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,hugetlb)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,memory)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/pids type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,pids)
cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,devices)
systemd-1 on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=35,pgrp=1,timeout=0,minproto=5,maxproto=5,direct,pipe_ino=15493)
mqueue on /dev/mqueue type mqueue (rw,relatime)
hugetlbfs on /dev/hugepages type hugetlbfs (rw,relatime,pagesize=2M)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime)
binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,relatime)
configfs on /sys/kernel/config type configfs (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/nvme0n1p1 on /boot type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/sda4 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered)
tmpfs on /run/user/1000 type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=1628988k,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=985)
gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=985)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime)
/dev/nvme0n1p3 on /run/media/youb/OS type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)
/dev/sda2 on /run/media/youb/DATA type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096,uhelper=udisks2)

Iguess you also have a windows installation?

Yes,I have window too. llaunch it 2-3 times per year .... I copy from NAS to ntfs mounted partition.

dmesg | grep -i ntfs

return nothing (I'm not at home and NAS is not listed here in my mounted partition)
I dont understand because on my previous laptop I do the same operation and I have no problème.

Last edited by hazote (2018-06-04 14:00:57)

seth · 2018-06-04 14:02:53

Ensure to disable windows fastboot and have windows check the partition, https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/418 … -10-a.html
Then try to copy from your NAS to your home partition (and whether this causes the same effects)

Fuser mounts (like ntfs-3g) are pretty resource intense (esp. compared to kernelspace filesystems) but I worry that in addition the NTFS partition turned inconsitent by concurrent use in windows and linux.

hazote · 2018-06-04 14:59:07

seth wrote:

Ensure to disable windows fastboot and have windows check the partition, https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/418 … -10-a.html
Then try to copy from your NAS to your home partition (and whether this causes the same effects)
Fuser mounts (like ntfs-3g) are pretty resource intense (esp. compared to kernelspace filesystems) but I worry that in addition the NTFS partition turned inconsitent by concurrent use in windows and linux.

already done .

I will test copy from NAS to ext4 to see if I got same issues.

edit: ok copy from ext4 to ntfs throught pcmanfm: no difference.
from terminal I got same results.

copy from NTFS works great, even USB-NTFS to HDD NTFS
copy to NTFS from internal HDD (ext4) is so slow.

So this is a Ntfs problem.
how to improv the copy to and from ntfs ?

Last edited by hazote (2018-06-09 06:45:49)

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#1 2018-06-03 20:56:39

systeme freezing and become slow (NTFS)

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Re: systeme freezing and become slow (NTFS)

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Re: systeme freezing and become slow (NTFS)

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Re: systeme freezing and become slow (NTFS)

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Re: systeme freezing and become slow (NTFS)

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