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#1 2006-07-20 17:01:39

djpharoah
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Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Hi.

Found a thread on Gnome's Network Manager on the forums but it was dated a while back. Just curious as to how can one install this??

I checked out AUR and found that it was now split into two parts - the daemon and the gnome front end. This is something I have been looking for for a long time since I jump back and forth between 4 wireless networks at school/home/study halls.

Any help would be appreaciated.


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#2 2006-07-20 17:08:06

Tebari
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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

NetworkManager, gnome-network-manager and it's dependencies are in Testing repo, you could install them from there.

Just enable testing on your pacman.conf. After that it's just a matter of doing

pacman -S testing/gnome-network-manager

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#3 2006-07-20 17:20:28

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Tebari wrote:

NetworkManager, gnome-network-manager and it's dependencies are in Testing repo, you could install them from there.

Just enable testing on your pacman.conf. After that it's just a matter of doing

pacman -S testing/gnome-network-manager

Oh thats awesome.

But what is the server for testing? Also do I have to modify any network settings in my /etc/rc.conf file? Or is it just that one line above and boom Im set??

Thanks


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#4 2006-07-20 18:04:52

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Wrack wrote:

Just uncomment the testing in /etc/pacman.conf.
Then pacman -Sy testing/gnome-network-manager.

That´s all.

No tweaking/configuring? Wow. Im amazed - another reason I switched to Arch from Gentoo.

Will go home and try it out first thing and post here should there be any probs *crosses fingers*


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#5 2006-07-20 23:44:48

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

I have installed it but nothing has happened? I dont see it anywhere...

Am I doing something wrong?


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#6 2006-07-21 04:20:11

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Umm, no. You have to do more then just install it though tongue . You must start up the hal dbus networkmanager & networkmanager-dispatcher daemons. and stop the network daemon.
to do this copy&paste the following in the terminal. (Note: I am not sure of the exact spellings of the daemons so tab autocomplete when you can.

su

/etc/rc.d/dbus start

/etc/rc.d/hal start

/etc/rc.d/networkmanager start

/etc/rc.d/networkmanager-dispatcher start

then exit su and type the following command

nm-applet &

that should work. If not then post back here and I'll see what I can do for you. (Make sure to include what wifi card you have and other relivant info if you do have a problem.)


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#7 2006-07-21 05:42:38

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?


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#8 2006-07-21 10:42:49

djpharoah
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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

ihavenoname wrote:

Umm, no. You have to do more then just install it though tongue . You must start up the hal dbus networkmanager & networkmanager-dispatcher daemons. and stop the network daemon.
to do this copy&paste the following in the terminal. (Note: I am not sure of the exact spellings of the daemons so tab autocomplete when you can.

su

/etc/rc.d/dbus start

/etc/rc.d/hal start

/etc/rc.d/networkmanager start

/etc/rc.d/networkmanager-dispatcher start

then exit su and type the following command

nm-applet &

that should work. If not then post back here and I'll see what I can do for you. (Make sure to include what wifi card you have and other relivant info if you do have a problem.)

I did what you said. I even added network manager and dhcddb to the daemons list in /etc/rc.conf.

Everyting work until I tried to log into my wifi network. It kept asking me my WEP key. I could never connect. Btw my wifi interface is ath0.

Should I have disable "network" daemon in /etc/rc.conf?


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#9 2006-07-21 10:53:45

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

EDIT:  :oops:

I was typing in my 128bit WEP key when it was asking me for the passphrase. Thanks everyone it works.

However I dont have to keep typing it in my WEP key do I? It also seems to be averaging a slow speed and connection quality than the default GNOME network monitor.

any ideas?


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#10 2006-07-21 16:17:24

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

I have noticed that the network manager reports a slower speed, but I never see any real speed changes, mu guess is that it is just more accurate big_smile

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#11 2006-07-21 17:27:00

djpharoah
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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Ryujin wrote:

I have noticed that the network manager reports a slower speed, but I never see any real speed changes, mu guess is that it is just more accurate big_smile

Yeah. Its kinda weird. My laptop is like 4 feet away from my wifi router. Gnome network monitor states I have 85% signal strength. Gnome Network Manager says 56%.

well its pretty nice still. I can scan for wifi and connect easily instead of going to CLI.


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#12 2006-07-21 23:41:07

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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Ok. this is kinda getting annoying. Everytime I log into Gnome I get asked by Gnome Network manager for my password - which it refuses to take. So I end up cancelling it. That leaves me having to enter my WEP key each and everytime I try to connect to my wifi router.

What really sucks is that Im using a 128bit WEP key. Anyone know how to keep your settings intact?


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#13 2006-07-23 06:47:40

Tebari
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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

The password that gnome-network-manager asks for first, is your Gnome Keyring password, which isn't the same as your user password, since you set it when you add something to the keyring for the first time. Do you have trouble with anyother application that uses the gnome keyring?

I suggest that you should look into the gnome keyring and try to changing your password.

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#14 2006-07-24 18:07:32

djpharoah
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Re: Whats going on with Gnome's Network Manager?

Ok. Time for an update.

GNM works.....sometimes. Sometimes I get no reception , sometimes I have to enter all my wifi-router info again even though I have gnome-keyring-manager isntalled.

I think its good but Im sticking to my rc.conf network settings.


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