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#1 2018-10-28 10:59:15

EvilUnicorn
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[SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

I'm installing Arch on an old laptop and run into some problems. Base is installed without issues and I'm at the point of installing Xorg. Now the laptop has a Radeon HD 4225 graphics card and following the wiki I need the legacy driver. Looking at the wiki I need xorg113 since the legacy driver has a version which is < 13.6. Quote 'for the legacy Catalyst driver needed by Radeon HD 2xxx, 3xxx and 4xxx cards (Catalyst 12.4)'. So, I've installed the Vi0l0 and xorg113 repository at the top pacman, added the key for the repo and ran: pacman -Syuu.

First question is if I want to replace mesa with catalyst-hd234k/mesa-noglvnd which seems exactly what I want so I accept. Then a warning follows stating that xorg-server 1.20.3-1 is being downgraded to 1.13.4-2. Well, that was the whole idea so fine! But, then an error stating that xorg-server<1.13.0 a dependency of 'catalyst-utlils' can't be found, and libtxc_dxtn, a dependency of 'mesa-noglvnd' can't be found. mesa-noglvnd can't be upgraded.

So, I'm probably missing a step and can't figure out what to do to ge this fixed. I do wonder if downgrading Xorg is a good idea anyways. It seems that with downgrading from 1.20 to 1.13 I'm downgrading quite some major releases. Won't that be a problem with other software dependencies later on? I'd like to setup the laptop as clean as possible but is the catalyst driver with all its downgrading a step forward or should I just stick with the default driver and have an up to date Xorg?

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#2 2018-10-28 11:19:44

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

Just need to read better. I see that I need xorg112 not 113 (xorg112
Catalyst < 12.10 and Catalyst Legacy do not support xorg-server 1.13.). Sorry, for that.

Now all goes fine, but get the question if I want to remove xf86-input-libinput since it conflicts with xorg-server. I guess that's just a thing that needs to be done in order to run xorg112? Doing so result in an error:

mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/libwayland-egl.so exists in filesystem (wayland)
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/libwayland-egl.so.1 exists in filestystem
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/libwayland-egl.so.1.0.0 exists in filestystem
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/wayland-egl.pc exists in filesystem
Errors occured, no packages upgraded..

The downgrade still fails I'm afraid. Question remains if this is all worth it. Seems that running xorg112 might not be the best idea?

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#3 2018-10-28 13:54:50

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

Many things have changed since catalyst stopped being updated.

While it should be possible to update the mesa-noglvnd pkgbuild to latest mesa it will only solve part of the problems.

I'm using xf86-video-ati , mesa-git, xorg 1.20.3 etc on a 12 year old laptop with a radeon RS480 videocard without problems.

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#4 2018-11-01 11:04:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

I did as you and went for installation of xf86-video-ati. No problems at all and this way I have the advantage of having all dependencies on latest version.

Thanks for the tip, I'll mark this as solved.

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#5 2018-11-02 12:59:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

I think I'm hitting a very similar issue on an old ASUS laptop having [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] onboard.
I've added custom Vi0L0 xorg117 repository
I'm stuck on 'pacman -Syuu', asking  'Replace mesa with catalyst/mesa-noglvnd?', listing up xorg-server downgrading from version 1.20.3-1 to version 1.17.4-2,
hitting:

checking for file conflicts...
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/libwayland-egl.so exists in filesystem (owned by wayland)
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/libwayland-egl.so.1 exists in filesystem (owned by wayland)
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/libwayland-egl.so.1.0.0 exists in filesystem (owned by wayland)
mesa-noglvnd: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/wayland-egl.pc exists in filesystem (owned by wayland)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

uploaded to http://sprunge.us/00eS7w

Do you suggest I could skip the downgrade part, and just continue installing the recommended packages under https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AM … the_driver ?

Thx
Pshemek

BTW I just noticed apart from xorg117, I should have added catalyst-hd234k instead of catalyst repository...

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#6 2018-11-02 13:37:58

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

No, you can use the open graphics driver or downgrade to use catalyst and nowadays you'd really have to have a good reason to go through this hassle. Unless you have a well defined use case where you notice bad performance that you'd expect catakyst to help you really are doing yourself no favors by trying to shoehorn this old software stack on modern Arch.

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#7 2019-03-30 18:41:58

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

V1del wrote:

you'd really have to have a good reason.. Unless you have a well defined use case..

That mysterious -- OpenCL image support..

 % darktable-cltest
1.058972 [opencl_init] discarding device 0 `AMD TURKS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.0.5-arch1-1-ARCH, LLVM 7.0.1)' due to missing image support.

& i'm still wondering -- has CL been implemented at all?
https://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/GalliumCompute/

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#8 2019-03-31 13:19:13

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Re: [SOLVED] Old laptop, installing catalyst-hd234k issue

Please don't necrobump, especially solved threads.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … bumping%22

If you want to pursue the issue further, then please open your own topic, and link back to this one if you feel it is still relevant.

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