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#1 2019-02-26 09:13:40

kenixer
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Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

Hello, I posted about this in Laptop Issues, but it didn't help. So I'm at lease trying this Newbie Corner...
I installed Arch recently. It works perfectly when it's charging with AC adapter or when it's with battery mode. However, when it's on the docking station, it make some annoying high-pitched noise continuously. I tried using https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/leno … g-fix-git/, but it didn't help.
As I remember, I didn't experienced this in windows. But when I'm using several kinds of linux distribution, I can hear this high-pitched, loud noise.
Any ideas?

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#2 2019-02-26 09:23:07

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

Don't do that...
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#3 2019-02-26 09:27:42

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

In general, please don't do this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … ss-posting

It has just been a day and these are active forums, if you don't get an answer that is usually an indication that either nobody knows, or you haven't specified the problem well enough. Since this is such a fringe case, it's quite possible that the first option is true.

Coil whines like that are often related to some audio channels getting activated and being improperly shielded or similar, do you use any power manager like TLP or laptop-mode-tools or similar that adjust kernel knobs? What happens if you mute your audio? Which cards are present after docking? What are the outputs of 

aplay -l
dmesg

after docking? Post these in [ code ] tags.

Edit: Whoops, looks like slithery and I had similar ideas, reinstating this, as it now has at least one somewhat relevant addition

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#4 2019-02-26 11:42:24

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

Sorry about cross posting. I'm really a newcomer, so I missed that rule.

Result of aplay/dmesg is:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC257 Analog [ALC257 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: Audio [ThinkPad Dock USB Audio], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

And this is the result of dmesg right after TP is docked...

> [  633.455380] thinkpad_acpi: docked into hotplug port replicator
> [  633.552746] usb 1-4: new full-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd
> [  633.699023] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=3077, bcdDevice= 0.00
> [  633.699029] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> [  633.699034] usb 1-4: Product: USB Billboard
> [  633.699038] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: Cypress Semiconductor
> [  633.699042] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: 11AD1D001CED470E2F130B00
> [  633.705392] hid-generic 0003:17EF:3077.0006: hiddev0,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Device [Cypress Semiconductor USB Billboard] on usb-0000:00:14.0-4/input1
> [  634.204711] usb usb3: root hub lost power or was reset
> [  634.204716] usb usb4: root hub lost power or was reset
> [  635.329462] usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd
> [  635.472262] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=3073, bcdDevice= 2.c3
> [  635.472269] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> [  635.472274] usb 3-1: Product: USB2.0 Hub             
> [  635.472278] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: VIA Labs, Inc.         
> [  635.473555] hub 3-1:1.0: USB hub found
> [  635.473784] hub 3-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
> [  635.597305] usb 4-1: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
> [  635.615018] usb 4-1: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=3072, bcdDevice= 2.c3
> [  635.615020] usb 4-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> [  635.615022] usb 4-1: Product: USB3.0 Hub             
> [  635.615023] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: VIA Labs, Inc.         
> [  635.617062] hub 4-1:1.0: USB hub found
> [  635.617465] hub 4-1:1.0: 4 ports detected
> [  636.182832] usb 3-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 11 using xhci_hcd
> [  636.332248] usb 3-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=3078, bcdDevice= 0.00
> [  636.332255] usb 3-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> [  636.332260] usb 3-1.1: Product: USB Billboard
> [  636.332264] usb 3-1.1: Manufacturer: Cypress Semiconductor
> [  636.332268] usb 3-1.1: SerialNumber: 11AD1D0019E74701451C0B00
> [  636.459460] usb 3-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd
> [  636.603074] usb 3-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=6039, bcdDevice= 1.70
> [  636.603081] usb 3-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> [  636.603085] usb 3-1.2: Product: Lenovo Laser Wireless Mouse
> [  636.609035] input: Lenovo Laser Wireless Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.2/3-1.2:1.0/0003:17EF:6039.0007/input/input26
> [  636.609549] hid-generic 0003:17EF:6039.0007: input,hidraw1: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Lenovo Laser Wireless Mouse] on usb-0000:3c:00.0-1.2/input0
> [  636.732795] usb 3-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 13 using xhci_hcd
> [  636.889081] usb 3-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=045e, idProduct=0810, bcdDevice= 1.08
> [  636.889087] usb 3-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> [  636.889092] usb 3-1.3: Product: Microsoft® LifeCam HD-3000
> [  636.889096] usb 3-1.3: Manufacturer: Microsoft
> [  636.892327] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Microsoft® LifeCam HD-3000 (045e:0810)
> [  636.900250] uvcvideo 3-1.3:1.0: Entity type for entity Extension 5 was not initialized!
> [  636.900259] uvcvideo 3-1.3:1.0: Entity type for entity Processing 4 was not initialized!
> [  636.900265] uvcvideo 3-1.3:1.0: Entity type for entity Selector 3 was not initialized!
> [  636.900270] uvcvideo 3-1.3:1.0: Entity type for entity Camera 1 was not initialized!
> [  636.900586] input: Microsoft® LifeCam HD-3000: Mi as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.3/3-1.3:1.0/input/input27
> [  637.149463] usb 3-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 14 using xhci_hcd
> [  637.298320] usb 3-1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=3073, bcdDevice=60.52
> [  637.298327] usb 3-1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=12
> [  637.298331] usb 3-1.4: SerialNumber: REV1.1
> [  637.300229] hub 3-1.4:1.0: USB hub found
> [  637.300621] hub 3-1.4:1.0: 4 ports detected
> [  637.586121] usb 3-1.4.3: new low-speed USB device number 15 using xhci_hcd
> [  637.683422] usb 3-1.4.3: New USB device found, idVendor=04b4, idProduct=0510, bcdDevice= 2.01
> [  637.683429] usb 3-1.4.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> [  637.683434] usb 3-1.4.3: Product: HID Keyboard
> [  637.683438] usb 3-1.4.3: Manufacturer: HID Keyboard
> [  637.700146] input: HID Keyboard HID Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4.3/3-1.4.3:1.0/0003:04B4:0510.0008/input/input28
> [  637.756633] hid-generic 0003:04B4:0510.0008: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [HID Keyboard HID Keyboard] on usb-0000:3c:00.0-1.4.3/input0
> [  637.766629] input: HID Keyboard HID Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4.3/3-1.4.3:1.1/0003:04B4:0510.0009/input/input29
> [  637.825192] input: HID Keyboard HID Keyboard Consumer Control as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4.3/3-1.4.3:1.1/0003:04B4:0510.0009/input/input30
> [  637.825480] hid-generic 0003:04B4:0510.0009: input,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [HID Keyboard HID Keyboard] on usb-0000:3c:00.0-1.4.3/input1
> [  637.899423] usb 3-1.4.4: new high-speed USB device number 16 using xhci_hcd
> [  639.145147] usb 3-1.4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=17ef, idProduct=306f, bcdDevice= 0.12
> [  639.145154] usb 3-1.4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
> [  639.145158] usb 3-1.4.4: Product: ThinkPad Dock USB Audio
> [  639.145163] usb 3-1.4.4: Manufacturer: Generic
> [  639.353165] input: Generic ThinkPad Dock USB Audio Consumer Control as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4.4/3-1.4.4:1.3/0003:17EF:306F.000A/input/input31
> [  639.409777] input: Generic ThinkPad Dock USB Audio as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:04:00.0/0000:05:02.0/0000:3c:00.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.4/3-1.4.4/3-1.4.4:1.3/0003:17EF:306F.000A/input/input32
> [  639.410341] hid-generic 0003:17EF:306F.000A: input,hiddev1,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Device [Generic ThinkPad Dock USB Audio] on usb-0000:3c:00.0-1.4.4/input3
> [  639.616138] usb 3-1.4.2: new high-speed USB device number 17 using xhci_hcd
> [  639.719969] usb 3-1.4.2: New USB device found, idVendor=0bda, idProduct=5409, bcdDevice= 1.40
> [  639.719976] usb 3-1.4.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> [  639.719981] usb 3-1.4.2: Product: 4-Port USB 2.0 Hub
> [  639.719984] usb 3-1.4.2: Manufacturer: Generic
> [  639.722920] hub 3-1.4.2:1.0: USB hub found
> [  639.724109] hub 3-1.4.2:1.0: 4 ports detected

Additionally, I tried installing TLP, but there wasn't any effect to this problem.

I don't know this info will help, but the type of noise is like: avg 3 sec of very high pitched noise(which makes my ear little stressed but can't 'hear' it well), and another 3 sec of slightly lower pitched noise(I can hear this very well unless I use an earphone)...and it continues.

Last edited by kenixer (2019-02-26 11:48:42)

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#5 2019-02-26 14:54:48

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

V1del wrote:

What happens if you mute your audio?

Also output of 

amixer

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#6 2019-02-26 17:23:33

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

I tried muting both integrated/dock soundcard, and nothing happened.
amixer's output:

Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Limits: Playback 0 - 87
  Mono: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 87
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 87
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-65.25dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 3
  Front Left: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Mic Mute-LED Mode',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'On' 'Off' 'Follow Capture' 'Follow Mute'
  Item0: 'Follow Mute'
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',3
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',4
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Capture 0 - 63
  Front Left: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
  Front Right: Capture 63 [100%] [30.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Auto-Mute Mode',0
  Capabilities: enum
  Items: 'Disabled' 'Enabled'
  Item0: 'Enabled'
Simple mixer control 'Internal Mic Boost',0
  Capabilities: volume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: 0 - 1
  Front Left: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]
  Front Right: 0 [0%] [0.00dB]

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#7 2019-02-26 17:31:35

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

You could try to mute/switch "Capture", but if the noise happens despite the muted outputs, it might not origin from the DSP - can you locate the physical source (some speaker?)

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#8 2019-02-26 18:05:31

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

I cannot locate it since my ear is not a radar...Also, I can't disassemble it to locate the source sad
I can hear it from the laptop and the docking station. But there wasn't any sound until last week, so I'm guessing that it's source is inside the laptop.

Last edited by kenixer (2019-02-26 18:06:53)

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#9 2019-02-26 18:33:04

kenixer
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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

I think it's coming from the CPU. When I close chrome and it stops.

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#10 2019-02-26 19:54:10

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

If your Laptop can't isolate interference without support from Operating System, reconsider? I have had motherboards (different from Laptop, Laptops should have already be designed that way), the background noise is switched off.

My question, has it always existed ?

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#11 2019-02-26 20:53:38

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

I'd rather bet on the GPU.
Please post a complete "sudo journalctl -b" - also try to stress GPU and CPU individually or enforce software rendering (whether and how that's possible requires information from the journal ;-)

ftr: radar isn't accustic, you (hopefully) have two ears and you can binaurally locate high frequencies very good (it's the very low ones that you can hear but not locate, why there's only one subwoofer)

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#12 2019-02-26 21:45:29

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Re: Hith pitched noise from TP T480 only when docked

GPU might be drawing more power that can induce 'whine sound'.

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