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#1 2019-07-29 16:38:26

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mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

Should I worry or how to fix it? It happens on my T470 after the last kernel update.

[   12.212158] rfkill: input handler disabled
[   12.706256] mce: CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   12.706257] mce: CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   12.706259] mce: CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   12.706260] mce: CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   12.706262] mce: CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   12.706265] mce: CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   12.707260] mce: CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
[   12.707261] mce: CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
[   12.707262] mce: CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[   12.707263] mce: CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[   12.707263] mce: CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[   12.707264] mce: CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal

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#2 2019-07-29 17:28:14

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

It is normal. It is possible to dissipate more power in the CPU than the cooling system can remove.  You just bumped your head on the thermal design limits of your system, so the CPU backed of on the clock rate to reduce power.  What were you doing at the time?  Compiling?  Gaming?  Finite element analysis?

Check your air filters.  If clogged, cleaning them might help.
If it is a tower, you could add fans, a bigger heat sink, or even some kind of mass transport cooling system.   
Laptops generally have limits to their thermal design.

Edit: Although that first line about the interrupt is interesting.  Did the fans come on and start screaming about this time?  What does htop say about CPU usage?

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#3 2019-07-30 14:48:28

Shinto
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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

I get the same on my Y540. Always happens during boot.

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#4 2019-07-31 13:53:37

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

Cpu was around 15% on a median scale. Now, enviroment- coding - browsing (maybe video from browsing)
I've tried to use the installation disk and on the chroot I was getting the same errors

Phiscally it's a laptop, and yes, I can feel some heat. But fans are working sometime, i can hear them, but they have quite a low threshold for staring cooling. I think that's the error.

With currrent kernel update 5.2.4 - error persists.

Also I dont have AC here, and about 35 outside.

iwlwifi-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +37.0°C  

thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:           0 RPM
temp1:        +49.0°C  
temp2:            N/A  
temp3:         +0.0°C  
temp4:         +0.0°C  
temp5:         +0.0°C  
temp6:         +0.0°C  
temp7:         +0.0°C  
temp8:         +0.0°C  
temp9:         +0.0°C  
temp10:        +0.0°C  
temp11:        +1.0°C  
temp12:        +0.0°C  
temp13:        +0.0°C  
temp14:        +0.0°C  
temp15:        +0.0°C  
temp16:        +0.0°C  

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1:        +49.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +48.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:        +48.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1:        +48.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

pch_skylake-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +43.5°C  

Last edited by homepod (2019-07-31 15:26:17)


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#5 2019-07-31 14:34:57

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

I think those temperatures all look quite rational.  Especially in an 35C ambient environment.


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#6 2019-07-31 15:01:30

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

From the timestamp it looks like this happens during early boot, which is somewhat expected as that is a time were starting up all your services and the system will probably generate quite a bit of load on all of your cores.

If this doesn't persist or repeat itself during normal usage or lead to unexpected behaviour during active use I'd say that shouldn't be much to worry about.

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#7 2019-07-31 15:22:11

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

V1del wrote:

From the timestamp it looks like this happens during early boot, which is somewhat expected as that is a time were starting up all your services and the system will probably generate quite a bit of load on all of your cores.

If this doesn't persist or repeat itself during normal usage or lead to unexpected behaviour during active use I'd say that shouldn't be much to worry about.

First one yes, early boot, but then happens again and its quite random,

I'll make a test with generating some prime numbers to see the result.

I don't really get it. - during the prime test , no trottle.

[   90.848473] audit: type=1130 audit(1564580237.629:48): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[  100.877979] audit: type=1131 audit(1564580247.789:49): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=NetworkManager-dispatcher comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[  689.049264] mce: CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[  689.049265] mce: CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[  689.049267] mce: CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[  689.049268] mce: CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[  689.049295] mce: CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[  689.049296] mce: CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[  689.051334] mce: CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
[  689.051335] mce: CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
[  689.051336] mce: CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
[  689.051336] mce: CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[  689.051370] mce: CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[  689.051370] mce: CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[  901.584063] audit: type=1130 audit(1564581048.646:50): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-tmpfiles-clean comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[  901.584070] audit: type=1131 audit(1564581048.646:51): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-tmpfiles-clean comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 1162.222730] audit: type=1130 audit(1564581309.274:52): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=fprintd comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 1162.483195] usb 1-9: reset full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[ 1165.841441] audit: type=1131 audit(1564581312.894:53): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=lm_sensors comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 1175.969972] i2c /dev entries driver
[ 1195.094151] audit: type=1130 audit(1564581342.141:54): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=lm_sensors comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 1195.738201] audit: type=1131 audit(1564581342.784:55): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=fprintd comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 1311.273239] mce: CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9)
[ 1311.273239] mce: CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9)
[ 1311.273241] mce: CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9)
[ 1311.273244] mce: CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9)
[ 1311.273273] mce: CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9)
[ 1311.273274] mce: CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 9)
[ 1311.274219] mce: CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
[ 1311.274220] mce: CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal
[ 1311.274221] mce: CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 1311.274222] mce: CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 1311.274223] mce: CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 1311.274224] mce: CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 1387.402273] audit: type=1130 audit(1564581534.431:56): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-hostnamed comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'
[ 1417.455065] audit: type=1131 audit(1564581564.484:57): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 msg='unit=systemd-hostnamed comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=success'

Last edited by homepod (2019-07-31 15:25:20)


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#8 2019-08-04 14:17:11

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

I am also getting similar messages for cpu throttling on my laptop during boot time:

[   11.546168] random: crng init done
[   16.099406] mce: CPU6: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099406] mce: CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099408] mce: CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099412] mce: CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099413] mce: CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099413] mce: CPU7: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099414] mce: CPU8: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099415] mce: CPU9: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099416] mce: CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099417] mce: CPU5: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099418] mce: CPU4: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099418] mce: CPU11: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099419] mce: CPU10: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.099438] mce: CPU6: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 1)
[   16.117387] mce: CPU4: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117389] mce: CPU10: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117424] mce: CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal
[   16.117424] mce: CPU6: Core temperature/speed normal
[   16.117425] mce: CPU7: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117426] mce: CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117427] mce: CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117428] mce: CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117428] mce: CPU8: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117429] mce: CPU11: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117430] mce: CPU5: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117430] mce: CPU9: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117431] mce: CPU6: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.117431] mce: CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[   16.118661] NET: Registered protocol family 38
[   16.370348] PM: Image not found (code -22)

and I think V1del has a point regarding starting up services and so on during boot time.

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#9 2020-01-15 17:12:11

quezak
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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

I'm getting same warnings as @theodore above.
I understand this _does_ happen im some cases for laptops, but I still have two questions:

1. How can I find out what are the threshold values that the logs mention? It doesn't appear the laptop is running particularly hot, so I want to confirm the messages are actually correct.

2. Is it possible to reduce the logs to only ONE message per event? With a 6-core (12-thread) i7, I'm having TWELVE "above threshold" messages and 12 more "speed normal" messages each time it happens, which makes it hard to find anything else in the system logs.

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#10 2020-02-14 11:40:34

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Re: mce: CPU: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttle

These thinkpads have a hardware CPU throttling issue. It causes them to "overheat" at too low of a temperature.

I fixed the issue with this workaround: https://github.com/erpalma/throttled#ar … ty-package

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