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#1 2019-08-28 00:06:17

soichiro
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Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

I've searched and couldn't find a similar thread that had an answer.

I have a bootable USB with the latest 2019.08.01 ISO image of Archlinux. I successfully used this USB to install Archlinux on another machine. I'm now trying to boot from this USB to install Archlinux on another machine, with the following specs:

Ryzen X2700
Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming
16GB RAM
1x1TB Samsung SSD
3x1.5TB WD HDDs (all AHCI-SATA)
Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070

When I attempt to boot the USB, the kernel appears to load, and the boot process makes it through several steps, before infinitely retrying to start the Journal Service. I am not able to boot to a shell. The startup logs look like this:

[  OK  ] Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status.
[  OK  ] Started Rebuild Dynamic Linker Cache.
[ ***  ] A start job is running for Journal Service (2min 58s / 2min 58s)
[FAILED] Failed to start Journal Service.
See 'systemctl status systemd-journald.service' for details.
[DEPEND] Dependency failed for Flush Journal to Persistent Storage.
[  OK  ] Stopped Journal Service.
         Starting Journal Service...
[ ***  ] A start job is running for Journal Service (3min / 3min)
[FAILED] Failed to start Journal Service.
See 'systemctl status systemd-journald.service' for details.
[  OK  ] Stopped Journal Service.
         Starting Journal Service...
[ ***  ] A start job is running for Journal Service (3min / 3min)
[FAILED] Failed to start Journal Service.
See 'systemctl status systemd-journald.service' for details.
[  OK  ] Stopped Journal Service.
         Starting Journal Service...
[ ***  ] A start job is running for Journal Service (3min / 3min)
[FAILED] Failed to start Journal Service.
See 'systemctl status systemd-journald.service' for details.
[  OK  ] Stopped Journal Service.
...
...

I can successfully boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB in Safe Graphics mode. Trying to boot Ubuntu in normal mode results in graphics glitches at the loading screen, and hangs at that point. I would not expect that to be an issue with Arch Linux, since the Live USB is not a graphical interface, but I can't actually get to a shell to investigate any logs.

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#2 2019-08-28 07:11:29

V1del
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=241135
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=240718

Update your UEFI/BIOS firmware. And you will likely want to boot the install iso with nomodeset as nouveau is likely to fail initializing modesetting on this card.

Last edited by V1del (2019-08-28 07:12:41)

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#3 2019-10-11 19:06:55

definitellynotspammer
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

Same issue here. After updating BIOS to the latest on Gigabyte B450M I am no longer able to boot from USB. Stuck on this Journal service thing as well.

EDIT 1: Even after downgrading BIOS to the one which used to work fine before upgrading - I can no longer boot from live USB. Seems like I am staying with the latest firmware then.

EDIT 2: I am with Ryzen 5 2600.

EDIT 3: Yes, tried latest ISO as well as few months older ISO - no difference. Manjaro doesn't boot at all, but I haven't tested Ubuntu. Also see later comments - I managed to boot from existing installation since BIOS update cleared grub entries from BIOS itself.

Any more suggestions?

Last edited by definitellynotspammer (2019-10-11 20:31:33)

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#4 2019-10-11 20:09:41

loqs
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

@definitellynotspammer,  you reproduced the issue with the 2019.10.01 ISO image?

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#5 2019-10-11 20:24:27

definitellynotspammer
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

loqs wrote:

@definitellynotspammer,  you reproduced the issue with the 2019.10.01 ISO image?

Yes, with 2019.10.01 ISO image. Also tried 2019.06.01 ISO image - no difference.

But hey, I managed to solve my issue. Bios upgrade cleared all bootable entries, so there was like "no bootable device found" (and this is the reason why I am using live ISO - to reinstall/regenerate GRUB). Basically I flashed Manjaro XFCE edition to USB, and during boot menu selection there was an option to Detect EFI bootloaders. I clicked on it, and it discovered GRUB installation on my SSD. I selected it and it showed me a good ol' GRUB menu from my SSD. Then I booted Arch Linux from it without any issues (AKA existing installation on SSD).

But this is just workaround, not a solution. Something is really broken in Arch Linux ISOs... hmm

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#6 2019-10-11 20:38:28

loqs
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/pack … 8cf54e4edc fixed the issue in systemd 242.32-3
The  2019.10.01 uses systemd 243.51-1 which also contains the fix.  You can check this from the file /arch/pkglist.x86_64.txt on the ISO.

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#7 2020-01-16 20:22:10

definitellynotspammer
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

This issue is still there in 2020.01 ISO. Solution: append

 nomodeset

to kernel parameters before booting up live ISO. Works great!

EDIT: Ryzen with Nvidia 2080Ti. Could it be that Nvidia causes this?

Last edited by definitellynotspammer (2020-01-16 20:22:52)

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#8 2020-01-16 20:43:15

V1del
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Re: Can't boot from Archlinux USB on Ryzen X2700

Yes that isn't surprising, most nvidia cards newer than 1000 something can't initialize modesetting on nouveau. You have to install the prop driver for these.

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