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#26 2019-11-01 17:50:25

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Maybe the firefox sandbox blocks access to the certificate directories?
You could try to play around with security.sandbox.content.read_path_whitelist

It is strange because I have no issues with FF70 here.

Edit: A related discussion in the clearlinux bugtracker: https://github.com/clearlinux/distribution/issues/1006

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#27 2019-11-01 18:18:42

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

progandy wrote:

It is strange because I have no issues with FF70 here.

Most annoying bit is that it is not consistent problem. Seven out of ten times it will fail on duckduckgo and reddit, other three it will work perfectly. I am programmer and such problems that fail or work sometimes, but not always, are most annoying. Related, I don't think it is sandboxing problem (or not exclusively related to sandboxing) because we would have consistent failure.

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#28 2019-11-01 22:47:16

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Can confirm the same problem is happening on Manjaro, Fedora, and Clearlinux.

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/digicert-in … e/109242/9

https://github.com/clearlinux/distribution/issues/1006

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#29 2019-11-03 20:34:11

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Hi,

I also can confirm the problem described in this thread. Firefox is complaining about the certificate of "DigiCert Global Root CA" when trying to open duckduckgo.com. Without doing anything specific, it just vanishes after a couple of minutes. It happens like one in ten or so.??

It is a bit annoying to try to search the internet for your problem when your beloved duckduckgo is not usable :-)

Is there another thread discussing this as well or why is this one tagged as "solved" ?

regards

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#30 2019-11-03 20:37:17

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

@collion the topic starter sxe could no longer reproduce the issue https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 8#p1850078

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#31 2019-11-04 17:19:55

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

coolion wrote:

Hi,

I also can confirm the problem described in this thread. Firefox is complaining about the certificate of "DigiCert Global Root CA" when trying to open duckduckgo.com. Without doing anything specific, it just vanishes after a couple of minutes. It happens like one in ten or so.??

It is a bit annoying to try to search the internet for your problem when your beloved duckduckgo is not usable :-)

Is there another thread discussing this as well or why is this one tagged as "solved" ?

regards

Short term fix:
Firefox Preferences -> Security -> Certificate Manager -> DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA -> Edit Trust -> Enabled 'This certificate can identify websites.'

@loqs - Still a problem for me.

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#32 2019-11-04 17:26:51

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

xman1 you could file a bug on the arch bug tracker against nss / p11-kit asking for the workaround for https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66161 to be removed as it is no longer needed and resolves the issue
or you could file a bug on the arch bug tracker against firefox for the failing certificate detection.
Edit:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64401

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#33 2019-11-06 22:17:13

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

New Firefox seems to have the problem fixed.  No need for the above workaround.

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#34 2019-11-06 22:37:15

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

xman1 wrote:

New Firefox seems to have the problem fixed.  No need for the above workaround.

You mean firefox 70.0.1-1 which was updated 2019-10-31 15:10 UTC ?

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#35 2019-11-07 19:40:31

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I've had the same problem on FF 70.0.1, and as annoying as it can be, only on Netflix, but as with others, not consistently.

loq's solution doesn't fix it, but firefox-developer-edition does not do this, so for now that's what I'm using.


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#36 2019-11-09 18:53:46

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Roken did my suggested solution behave identically to the official packages?
Off topic but have you abandoned https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=249520 ?

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#37 2019-11-09 20:17:48

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

loqs wrote:

Roken did my suggested solution behave identically to the official packages?
Off topic but have you abandoned https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=249520 ?

Yes - but maybe symptomatic of my perms issues (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=250589) since Firefox seems to be behaving now after fixes, so maybe just my own issue.

As for the offtopic, I hadn't seen your reply. My apologies - full reply over there.


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#38 2019-11-10 16:59:10

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Using `firefox 70.0.1-1`, `nss 3.47-1`

Experiencing this error every now-and-then. Sometimes it goes away when reloading the page, clearing Firefox's cache, or restarting Firefox.

Software is Preventing Firefox From Safely Connecting to This Site
duckduckgo.com is most likely a safe site, but a secure connection could not be established. This issue is caused by DigiCert Global Root CA, which is either software on your computer or your network.
...
Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_MITM_DETECTED

Took screenshots or said error and what it's certificate chain looked like: https://imgur.com/a/hG7MyTn

Clicking on the error code shows the following:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=[snip]&t=ffab

Your connection is being intercepted by a TLS proxy. Uninstall it if possible or configure your device to trust its root certificate.

HTTP Strict Transport Security: true
HTTP Public Key Pinning: false

Certificate chain:

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-----END CERTIFICATE-----
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
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-----END CERTIFICATE-----

Edit: Oh, and it's not just DuckDuckGo, other sites do this as well.

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#39 2019-11-11 19:39:19

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Can confirm: same problem, same sites (DuckDuckGo & Reddit), and the problem is intermittent.

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#40 2019-11-11 19:50:56

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I wonder what are the mitm values in about:config when that error occurs?
security.certerrors.mitm*
security.pki.mitm*

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#41 2019-11-11 20:09:31

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I don't know how likely this is, but since I fixed my file permissions in /usr/bin I've had no problems at all. It may be worth checking.


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#42 2019-11-14 12:26:05

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

progandy can you test with security.cert_pinning.enforcement_level=2

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#43 2019-11-14 13:04:49

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

loqs wrote:

progandy can you test with security.cert_pinning.enforcement_level=2

A few days ago I tried it with level=1 and ddg as the homepage in a new profile and got no errors. I didn't use it again until now. On the first start today I got an HSTS error and accidentally reloaded without reading the complete error message. Now I can't get it to show up, even if I set the cert pinning level to 2.

Oh, by the way after I got the error,  "security.pki.mitm_canary_issuer" was set to "DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA" even after the ddg reloaded sucessfully. "security.pki.mitm_detected" was "false" after the reload. I restarted a few times with the canary issuer set without problems, then reset it to the empty string and everything is still working fine.

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#44 2019-11-14 15:25:45

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I can not find a reliable reproducer either which makes debugging very difficult.
I believe the DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA is the only one affected as it used by *.mozilla.com and *.mozilla.org services.

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64401 is blocked by Opera's use of the old method.  Or until it can be proven it is no longer using it.

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#45 2019-11-16 09:00:57

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I have been having this issue quite frequently lately. I found that deleting "DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA" from the Firefox certificate manager and restarting the browser consistently fixes the issue. It usually reoccurs when the browser is restarted a second time so it's not a permanent fix, but at least it does not involve manually trusting certificates or other sketchy solutions.

edit: I spoke too soon. Guess it was just a coincidence.

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#46 2019-11-16 16:25:58

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

loqs wrote:

I can not find a reliable reproducer either which makes debugging very difficult.
I believe the DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA is the only one affected as it used by *.mozilla.com and *.mozilla.org services.

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/64401 is blocked by Opera's use of the old method.  Or until it can be proven it is no longer using it.

loqs, I can reproduce it pretty consistently. Ten times out of ten to be precise.

1. Change home page in Firefox settings to https://duckduckgo.com.
2. Restart browser.
3. Open new tab and press home button.
4. Profit?... duckduckgo.com and reddit.com throw certificate error. Certificate chain shows only the last certificate.

Setting home page back to blank and restarting fixes the issue with home page button, but then the error still occurs randomly from time to time.

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#47 2019-11-16 19:42:18

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Happy to confirm that the issue was only caused by DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA on my end.
The suggestion from a thread above to edit the certificate's options and enabling "This certificate can identify websites" does stop this error from reappearing.

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#48 2019-11-18 20:00:46

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I successfully solved the issue by simply deleting the problematic certificate and restarting Firefox smile

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#49 2019-11-21 14:10:55

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

I installed a new system arch + kde in the last 2 days and was getting the error randomly. Yesterday I just made sure that the timedatectl was syncronizing with ntp and after that it worked. I tried going in the certificate settings in the browser and but the flag people are talking about "enable certificate to sites" is already enabled.

Restarting the browser does not fix the issue.

So as of today this is still a problem not fixed.

I got another error today and after poking a little and looking into the manjaro forum I restarted systemd-timesyncd. Refreshed the browser and it is working ok now. But this seems pretty unstable.


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#50 2019-11-21 15:17:15

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Re: [Solved] firefox-developer-edition blocks certain webseites

Well you should setup time synchronisation regardless of whether you have this issue or not, and yes certificates can definitely be sensitive to wrong/skewed clocks here.

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