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#1 2020-01-08 16:56:14

walteweiss
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[ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

Hello everyone,

I’m looking for a minimalistic media server, who can live on a headless server and work as a back-end with different front-ends (iPad, TV, RPis with Kodi). Nothing fancy, basic DLNA/UPnP should work for my needs. My PC’s Kodi Library (with UPnP being on) is visible from every device, so it should be enough. But I want to move the back-end to my Arch server, which I’m trying to keep as minimal as possible.

I have zero experience with any software of the kind, so I’ve looked through list of Software, Media Servers and picked ReadyMedia (minidlna) or Rygel, since they both are in the official repository.

But here’s the problem: they want so many dependencies! Why is so?

Seems like my kodi box can see all my media through FTP relatively well. And vsftpd package is just about 350 KiB and with no other dependencies. Is there a way to get my server visible from my TV (through DLNA) without so many dependencies and heavy packages being installed?

Also, I don’t like rygel willing more than Kodi itself, which I think is too powered for my very basic needs. But rygel wants even more! With minidlna willing to have almost the same number of dependencies and disk space!

The problem is that I don’t know what server software I want, so I may want to remove some, and I’m worried I’ll leave a lot of dependencies left. Or shouldn’t I?

Would like to hear any feedback on here, thank you.


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The dependencies are listed below.

MiniDLNA
sudo pacman -S minidlna

resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: harfbuzz will be installed before its freetype2 dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mesa will be installed before its libglvnd dependency

Packages (87) alsa-lib-1.2.1.2-2  alsa-topology-conf-1.2.1-1  alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.1.2-1
              aom-1.0.0.errata1-1  dav1d-0.5.2-1  ffmpeg-1:4.2.1-4  flac-1.3.3-1
              fontconfig-2:2.13.91+24+g75eadca-1  freetype2-2.10.1-1  fribidi-1.0.8-1
              giflib-5.2.1-1  graphite-1:1.3.13-2  gsm-1.0.18-1  harfbuzz-2.6.4-2
              hicolor-icon-theme-0.17-1  jack-0.125.0-8  l-smash-2.14.5-1  lame-3.100-2
              lcms2-2.9-2  libass-0.14.0-1  libasyncns-0.8+3+g68cd5af-2  libavc1394-0.5.4-3
              libbluray-1.1.2-1  libdrm-2.4.100-1  libexif-0.6.21-3  libglvnd-1.3.0-2
              libibus-1.5.21-3  libice-1.0.10-2  libid3tag-0.15.1b-9  libiec61883-1.2.0-5
              libjpeg-turbo-2.0.4-1  libmodplug-0.8.9.0-2  libogg-1.3.4-1
              libomxil-bellagio-0.9.3-2  libpciaccess-0.16-1  libpng-1.6.37-1  libpulse-13.0-2
              libraw1394-2.1.2-2  libsamplerate-0.1.9-2  libsm-1.2.3-1  libsndfile-1.0.28-2
              libsoxr-0.1.3-1  libssh-0.9.3-1  libtheora-1.1.1-4  libtiff-4.1.0-1
              libunwind-1.3.1-1  libva-2.6.0-1  libvdpau-1.3-1  libvorbis-1.3.6-1
              libvpx-1.8.2-1  libwebp-1.1.0-1  libx11-1.6.9-6  libxau-1.0.9-2  libxcb-1.13.1-1
              libxcursor-1.2.0-1  libxdamage-1.1.5-2  libxdmcp-1.1.3-2  libxext-1.3.4-2
              libxfixes-5.0.3-3  libxi-1.7.10-2  libxrender-0.9.10-3  libxshmfence-1.3-1
              libxtst-1.2.3-3  libxv-1.0.11-3  libxxf86vm-1.1.4-3  llvm-libs-9.0.1-1
              lm_sensors-3.6.0-1  mesa-19.3.1-1  opencore-amr-0.1.5-3  openjpeg2-2.3.1-1
              opus-1.3.1-1  sdl2-2.0.10-1  speex-1.2.0-2  speexdsp-1.2.0-1  sysfsutils-2.1.0-11
              v4l-utils-1.18.0-1  vid.stab-1.1-2  vulkan-icd-loader-1.1.130-1  wayland-1.17.0-1
              x264-3:0.157.r2980.34c06d1-2  x265-3.2.1-1  xcb-proto-1.13-4  xorgproto-2019.2-2
              xvidcore-1.3.7-1  zita-alsa-pcmi-0.3.2-2  zita-resampler-1.6.2-2  minidlna-1.2.1-4

Total Download Size:    80.39 MiB
Total Installed Size:  374.99 MiB
Rygel
sudo pacman -S rygel
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: libglvnd will be installed before its mesa dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: harfbuzz will be installed before its freetype2 dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: usbmuxd will be installed before its libimobiledevice dependency

Packages (109) adobe-source-code-pro-fonts-2.030ro+1.050it-5  adwaita-icon-theme-3.34.3-1
               alsa-lib-1.2.1.2-2  alsa-topology-conf-1.2.1-1  alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.1.2-1
               at-spi2-atk-2.34.1-1  at-spi2-core-2.34.0-1  atk-2.34.1-1
               avahi-0.7+18+g1b5f401-3  brotli-1.0.7-3  cairo-1.17.2+17+g52a7c79fd-2
               cantarell-fonts-1:0.200-1  colord-1.4.4+9+g1ce26da-1  dconf-0.34.0-1
               desktop-file-utils-0.24-1  fontconfig-2:2.13.91+24+g75eadca-1  freetype2-2.10.1-1
               fribidi-1.0.8-1  gdk-pixbuf2-2.40.0-1  glib-networking-2.62.3-1
               graphite-1:1.3.13-2  gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.34.0-1  gssdp-1.2.2-1
               gst-plugins-base-libs-1.16.2-1  gstreamer-1.16.2-1
               gtk-update-icon-cache-1:3.24.13-1  gtk3-1:3.24.13-1  gupnp-1.2.2-1
               gupnp-av-0.12.11+2+gb5ca07c-1  gupnp-dlna-0.10.5+4+gc947eed-1  harfbuzz-2.6.4-2
               hicolor-icon-theme-0.17-1  iso-codes-4.4-1  jansson-2.12-1  jasper-2.0.16-1
               js60-60.9.0-1  json-glib-1.4.4-1  lcms2-2.9-2  libcanberra-0.30+2+gc0620e4-2
               libcups-2.3.1-1  libdaemon-0.14-4  libdatrie-0.2.12-1  libdrm-2.4.100-1
               libepoxy-1.5.4-1  libgee-0.20.2-1  libglvnd-1.3.0-2  libgudev-233-1
               libgusb-0.3.1-2  libimobiledevice-1.2.0+87+g92c5462-6  libjpeg-turbo-2.0.4-1
               libmediaart-1.9.4+1+ga704d0b-1  libnm-1.22.2-1  libogg-1.3.4-1
               libomxil-bellagio-0.9.3-2  libpciaccess-0.16-1  libplist-2.1.0-2  libpng-1.6.37-1
               libproxy-0.4.15-13  librsvg-2:2.46.4-1  libsoup-2.68.3-1  libstemmer-0+713-1
               libthai-0.1.28-1  libtiff-4.1.0-1  libtool-2.4.6+42+gb88cebd5-8
               libunwind-1.3.1-1  libusbmuxd-2.0.0-2  libvorbis-1.3.6-1  libx11-1.6.9-6
               libxau-1.0.9-2  libxcb-1.13.1-1  libxcomposite-0.4.5-2  libxcursor-1.2.0-1
               libxdamage-1.1.5-2  libxdmcp-1.1.3-2  libxext-1.3.4-2  libxfixes-5.0.3-3
               libxft-2.3.3-1  libxi-1.7.10-2  libxinerama-1.1.4-2  libxkbcommon-0.9.1-1
               libxrandr-1.5.2-2  libxrender-0.9.10-3  libxshmfence-1.3-1  libxtst-1.2.3-3
               libxv-1.0.11-3  libxxf86vm-1.1.4-3  llvm-libs-9.0.1-1  lm_sensors-3.6.0-1
               lzo-2.10-3  mesa-19.3.1-1  nspr-4.24-1  nss-3.49-1  orc-0.4.31-1
               pango-1:1.44.7-1  pixman-0.38.4-1  polkit-0.116-3  rest-0.8.1-1
               shared-mime-info-1.15-1  sound-theme-freedesktop-0.8-3  tdb-1.3.18-4
               tracker-2.3.0-2  upower-0.99.11-1  usbmuxd-1.1.0+66+g9af2b12-1  wayland-1.17.0-1
               wayland-protocols-1.18-1  xcb-proto-1.13-4  xkeyboard-config-2.28-1
               xorgproto-2019.2-2  rygel-0.38.3-1

Total Download Size:   110.51 MiB
Total Installed Size:  521.88 MiB
Kodi
sudo pacman -S kodi
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: libglvnd will be installed before its mesa dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: kodi-bin will be installed before its kodi dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: harfbuzz will be installed before its freetype2 dependency

Packages (91) alsa-lib-1.2.1.2-2  alsa-topology-conf-1.2.1-1  alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.1.2-1
              avahi-0.7+18+g1b5f401-3  bluez-libs-5.52-2  cifs-utils-6.10-1  confuse-3.2.2-1
              desktop-file-utils-0.24-1  flac-1.3.3-1  fontconfig-2:2.13.91+24+g75eadca-1
              freetype2-2.10.1-1  fribidi-1.0.8-1  graphite-1:1.3.13-2  harfbuzz-2.6.4-2
              hicolor-icon-theme-0.17-1  jansson-2.12-1  kodi-bin-18.5-1  lcms2-2.9-2
              ldb-1:1.5.6-2  libaio-0.3.112-2  libass-0.14.0-1  libasyncns-0.8+3+g68cd5af-2
              libbluray-1.1.2-1  libbsd-0.10.0-1  libcddb-1.3.2-5  libcdio-2.1.0-1
              libcec-4.0.4-2  libcups-2.3.1-1  libdaemon-0.14-4  libdrm-2.4.100-1  libftdi-1.4-4
              libglvnd-1.3.0-2  libice-1.0.10-2  libimagequant-2.12.5-1  libjpeg-turbo-2.0.4-1
              libmicrohttpd-0.9.69-1  libnfs-4.0.0-3  libogg-1.3.4-1  libomxil-bellagio-0.9.3-2
              libpciaccess-0.16-1  libpng-1.6.37-1  libpulse-13.0-2  libsm-1.2.3-1
              libsndfile-1.0.28-2  libtiff-4.1.0-1  libunwind-1.3.1-1  libusb-compat-0.1.5-2
              libva-2.6.0-1  libvdpau-1.3-1  libvorbis-1.3.6-1  libwbclient-4.10.10-2
              libx11-1.6.9-6  libxau-1.0.9-2  libxcb-1.13.1-1  libxcomposite-0.4.5-2
              libxdamage-1.1.5-2  libxdmcp-1.1.3-2  libxext-1.3.4-2  libxfixes-5.0.3-3
              libxi-1.7.10-2  libxinerama-1.1.4-2  libxrandr-1.5.2-2  libxrender-0.9.10-3
              libxshmfence-1.3-1  libxslt-1.1.34-2  libxtst-1.2.3-3  libxxf86vm-1.1.4-3
              lirc-1:0.10.1-4  llvm-libs-9.0.1-1  lm_sensors-3.6.0-1  lmdb-0.9.24-1  lzo-2.10-3
              mariadb-libs-10.4.11-1  mesa-19.3.1-1  openjpeg2-2.3.1-1  p8-platform-2.1.0.1-3
              python2-2.7.17-1  python2-pillow-6.2.1-1  python2-pycryptodomex-3.9.0-3
              python2-simplejson-3.17.0-1  smbclient-4.10.10-2  taglib-1.11.1-3  talloc-2.3.1-1
              tdb-1.3.18-4  tevent-1:0.9.39-4  tinyxml-2.6.2-6  wayland-1.17.0-1
              xcb-proto-1.13-4  xorg-xdpyinfo-1.3.2-3  xorgproto-2019.2-2  kodi-18.5-1

Total Download Size:   121.01 MiB
Total Installed Size:  479.20 MiB

Last edited by walteweiss (2020-02-10 10:32:56)

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#2 2020-01-09 13:43:20

Lone_Wolf
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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

minidlna depends on ffmpeg which depends on a graphical environment so you get X11 and wayland on your server.

Rygel is part of the gnome DE, so you get X11 , wayland and gnome .

If you don't want a graphical environment on your server you'll have to look further.


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#3 2020-01-16 18:02:50

walteweiss
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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

Hello, thank you, I am still looking for the solution. At this point I installed minidlna with its 87 dependencies, because I found no alternative with less dependencies.

Although not relevant to Arch Linux, but today I have found minidlna has just 13 (3 for build and 10 for libraries) on FreeBSD ports, maybe it’s more, but I see no ffmpeg dependency. That’s what I was looking for (and am still looking, since I use Arch, not FreeBSD). Maybe there’s a way to install it without the extra dependencies I don’t need on a headless server.

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#4 2020-01-16 19:01:55

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

I wonder if you can look at ffmpeg and create a custom PKGBUILD for it that lacks the DE stuff?  Google it?


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#5 2020-01-16 19:26:29

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ffmpeg-headless/ ?

Read the comments on the AUR page if you try this.

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#6 2020-01-18 12:34:15

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

walteweiss wrote:

but today I have found minidlna has just 13 (3 for build and 10 for libraries) on FreeBSD ports, maybe it’s more, but I see no ffmpeg dependency.

From the list of library dependencies on freshports :

7. libavformat.so : multimedia/ffmpeg

https://www.freshports.org/multimedia/ffmpeg/ lists 18 library dependencies .
Looks like needed dependencies for minidlna will not be far apart between arch & freebsd.


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Automounting : not needed, i prefer pmount
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#7 2020-01-19 21:16:14

Chuck Arch Linux
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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

And what about trying Universal Media Server.
It work well with a lot of renderers.

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#8 2020-02-09 10:08:52

walteweiss
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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

Lone_Wolf wrote:

From the list of library dependencies on freshports :

7. libavformat.so : multimedia/ffmpeg

https://www.freshports.org/multimedia/ffmpeg/ lists 18 library dependencies .
Looks like needed dependencies for minidlna will not be far apart between arch & freebsd.

Thank you for pointing that, I didn't know how to check it properly on the FreeBSD website. Seems like we have to install this without ffmpeg, as @2ManyDogs suggested.

2ManyDogs wrote:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ffmpeg-headless/ ?

Read the comments on the AUR page if you try this.

***

Chuck Arch Linux wrote:

And what about trying Universal Media Server.
It work well with a lot of renderers.

As far as I remember, it showed me the same (big) number of dependencies, when I've been looking for a server.

***

Possible solution

I have stopped my search as for now, it works for me and I don't really mind having extra dependencies I don't need. So the subject isn't solved for me, but I assume it may be solved with ffmpeg-headless @2ManyDogs provided. I may check it later and report back on here.

Should I mark this thread as [SOLVED] in such a case?

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#9 2020-02-09 16:28:13

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

Hmmm, ffmpeg-headless is not confirmed to be be a solution (for now) but the thread is useful for people with the same question.
Maybe use [ANSWERED] instead ?


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#10 2020-02-10 10:36:24

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

Thank you, I changed the topic to [ANSWERED].

I will try to check the possible solution, but since I am planning some minor changes to my infrastructure, in order to avoid double work, I prefer to check this later. I assume I’ll be able to come back to this thread to confirm it works, if it is.

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#11 2020-02-11 11:17:34

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

Hello, just thought that I wouild mention Gerbera in the AUR, formerly known as Mediatomb. If you're looking for pure DLNA (UPnP) then this is worth a look. I serve content to my DLNA compliant TVs, laptops, etc. I run it in a Docker container, not sure of size offhand but I can check and report back if you like...

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#12 2020-02-11 11:29:26

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Re: [ANSWERED] Minimalistic DLNA Media Server? (headless)

starfry wrote:

Hello, just thought that I wouild mention Gerbera in the AUR, formerly known as Mediatomb.

This also depends on ffmpeg so will have the same issue that the OP is trying to avoid.


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