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#1 2020-04-16 18:10:15

catnap
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[WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

I unplugged an old internal HDD from inside my PC to make room for a more modern SSD disk, which is quicker and far more silent. However, because I would still want to access some of my old files, I connected the old HDD to a USB port of my PC with a USB SATA/IDE adapter kit. Unfortunately, a problem has presented itself. The HDD powers up and is vaguely recognized by my Arch Linux system but the HDD does not manifest any partitions or UUID in the lsblk -f listing.

NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINT
sda                                                                         
├─sda1
│    vfat   FAT32       ****-****                                  419,9M    18% /boot
├─sda2
│    ext3   1.0          ****-****-****-****-**********   34,3G      69% /
└─sda3
     ext3   1.0           ****-****-****-****-**********   73,8G      18% /home
sdb                                                                         
└─sdb1
     ext3   1.0           ****-****-****-****-*********     206,9G    0% /mnt/pnyhd
sdd  crypto 2          ****-****-****-****-*********                
└─crypttoshiba
     ext3   1.0           ****-****-****-****-*********     1,3T         25% /mnt/crtos
sde                         [NOTHING HERE]                                                
sr0                                                                         

The partitions are visible to fdisk /dev/sde but mounting does not work.

The disk shows in the dmesg listing:

[14519.032365] usb 1-6: new high-speed USB device number 9 using xhci_hcd
[14519.050799] usb 1-6: New USB device found, idVendor=152d, idProduct=2338, bcdDevice= 1.00
[14519.050805] usb 1-6: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
[14519.050809] usb 1-6: Product: USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge
[14519.050812] usb 1-6: Manufacturer: JMicron
[14519.050815] usb 1-6: SerialNumber: *****************
[14519.053502] usb-storage 1-6:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[14519.054011] scsi host9: usb-storage 1-6:1.0
[14520.060155] scsi 9:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ST3000DM 001-1ER166            PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS
[14520.060769] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg6 type 0
[14520.062366] sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] 1565565872 512-byte logical blocks: (802 GB/747 GiB)
[14520.062834] sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
[14520.062839] sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Mode Sense: 00 38 00 00
[14520.063310] sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Asking for cache data failed                             [THIS MIGHT BE CRITICAL]
[14520.063319] sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Assuming drive cache: write through
[14520.309160] sd 9:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI disk                                           [BUT THE DISK SHOULD BE THERE]

The prompt sudo blkid | grep sde shows

/dev/sde: PTTYPE="PMBR"

Is there an easy way to troubleshoot the situation? The adapter kit itself seems to consist mostly of just wires and cables, so I believe that compatibility issues are absent. The UUID of the disk might need refreshing but I guess this is done for partitions rather than entire disks, so that nothing can probably be done before the partitions can be accessed.

Last edited by catnap (2020-05-13 11:41:28)

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#2 2020-04-16 19:15:00

seth
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Re: [WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

The adapter kit itself seems to consist mostly of just wires and cables

Yeah, no. SATA => USB requires a bit more than copper.

However, I assume the problem is the power supply? Most 3.5" drives  are not sufficiently powered by certainly an USB 2 port at 5V and 0.5A
You will get the firmware to report, but the disk won't spin up.

Google suggests anywhere between 5W and 8W to operate that drive, so you'll require a USB-C port or external power supply.

The more you report on the actual setup, the better.

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#3 2020-04-16 19:21:16

ronmon
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Re: [WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LS … UTF8&psc=1

Yeah, I have one of these. Just slide the drive in, hit the power button and you're good to go.

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#4 2020-04-16 20:51:31

catnap
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Re: [WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

seth wrote:

Yeah, no. SATA => USB requires a bit more than copper.

Okay. I stand corrected. However, it still probably is not a compatibility issue because I have used the same adapter with the same system before, unless some recent kernel update makes a crucial difference.

seth wrote:

However, I assume the problem is the power supply? Most 3.5" drives  are not sufficiently powered by certainly an USB 2 port at 5V and 0.5A
You will get the firmware to report, but the disk won't spin up.

I am already using an external power supply, that I unfortunately neglected to mention in the first post. The power supply is connected to the SATA port of the HDD. The power supply should be sufficient, at least in theory. The output power of the supply is 5 V x 2 A = 10 W, whereas the specification of the Seagate HDD is 5 V x 0.75 A. I might try to reconnect the HDD to the internal power supply of the PC where it was before to make sure that power is not the issue.

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#5 2020-04-16 22:19:17

ronmon
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Re: [WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

I still think seth is right. Either the power is insufficient or it is not properly connected.

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#6 2020-05-13 11:40:52

catnap
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Re: [WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

seth wrote:

However, I assume the problem is the power supply?

The power supply really seems to have been the problem, although I do not understand why. When I plugged the HD inside the machine and connected to the PC's power supply, everything worked nicely.

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#7 2020-05-13 14:41:57

paulkerry
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Registered: 2014-10-02
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Re: [WORKAROUND] Connecting HDD with USB SATA/IDE adapter kit

Your power supply might be failing under load and might not be able to provide enough peak current - seen this lots of times with plug-in type PSU's for instance.

BTW - not sure about you using "[WORKAROUND]" in your posted title...

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