archlinux-menus: Necessary?

johnisevil · 2006-09-02 03:48:47

Is there any real purpose for the archlinux-menus package other than a form of advertising? I feel that archlinux-menus should infact be a package, no doubts about that, but it should be entirely optional. It's great that it acts as a shortcut to various parts of archlinux.org, but what I don't get is why is this a dependency of gnome-menus? By making archlinux-menus a dependency of gnome-menus is like saying "Well, if you'd like to keep dependencies consistant and not have to rebuild gnome-menus yourself, you have no choice but to install this whether it's useful to you or not.". I can't understand why this is a dependency of gnome-menus other than it being a form of advertising.

Others opinions on this topic would be greatly appreciated.

iphitus · 2006-09-02 05:11:30

pacman -Rd archlinux-menus

Romashka · 2006-09-02 07:46:06

I agree that archlinux-menus is optional dependency. But I really don't care. There is nothing wrong with that.

pacman -Rd archlinux-menus will remove package but during upgrade to next gnome version it will be installed again.

jaboua · 2006-09-02 09:06:51

I just disable the shortcuts in the gnome menu editor - but I don't really think they are necesarry either...

Lone_Wolf · 2006-09-02 09:56:31

archlinux-menu is also part of the KDE menu

ingvildr · 2006-09-02 11:41:40

i actually use them, its quickier to just click on forums/aur etc in the menu.

T-Dawg · 2006-09-02 11:49:59

I never thought of them as advertisements, more as easy access points for help with the forums and wiki links. I used them alot when I first started out here.

tpowa · 2006-09-02 13:00:17

the purpose of this package was to give users a quick possibility to reach the arch community

lumiwa · 2006-09-02 13:16:20

tpowa wrote:

the purpose of this package was to give users a quick possibility to reach the arch community

I never used but I tried now:

htmlview http://www.archlinux.org
Error showing url: There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location.

I use KDE.

Thanks,

Mitja
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tpowa · 2006-09-02 13:20:21

works fine here

detto · 2006-09-02 13:58:54

@lumiwa: this looks to me like wrong set filetype associations in kde. look into control center

lumiwa · 2006-09-03 01:04:20

detto wrote:

@lumiwa: this looks to me like wrong set filetype associations in kde. look into control center

Control Center - File Associations - I have for html in General:
Konqueror, Opera, Quanta (I think that is enough) and Embedding:
KHTML (khtml) and two more.

Maybe I missed something?

pressh · 2006-09-03 07:24:41

@lumiwa, I had that problem too when I compiled my own kde packages back iin time. I solved it by modifying /usr/bin/htmlview to just use the browser I needed.

lumiwa · 2006-09-03 14:27:54

pressh wrote:

@lumiwa, I had that problem too when I compiled my own kde packages back iin time. I solved it by modifying /usr/bin/htmlview to just use the browser I needed.

Thank you. Htmlview has (had) option for gnome and for mozilla.

Mitja
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bsdson.tw · 2006-09-12 03:42:17

I believe that it is not about convenience or not.
But does kde-common do require archlinux-menu?

Besides, it seems that I can't hide or remove it from my xfce menu!

Gullible Jones · 2006-09-16 04:13:59

You can force-uninstall it to get rid of it, via pacman -Rd.

Just FWIW, I brought up something about packages like this a while back... A good way around it, IMO, would be a "NoInstall" or "BlockPkg" (or such) array in pacman.conf, which I proposed on the bugtracker here.

Ugo · 2006-09-16 11:56:37

lumiwa wrote:

I never used but I tried now:
htmlview http://www.archlinux.org
Error showing url: There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location.
I use KDE.

The menu opens the link with the command
htmlview http://www.archlinux.org
htmlview is a script in /usr/bin/, you can edit and change it if you wish.

For the specific problem, htmlview looks at the environment variable DESKTOP_SESSION: if this is defined and it is equal to "kde", then htmlview opens the link with konqueror.
I noticed that kde does not define the environment variable DESKTOP_SESSION.
I don't know if this is considered a bug of KDE, of htmlview, or of KDM, but I avoided it by defining DESKTOP_SESSION in my .xinitrc and .xsession

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#1 2006-09-02 03:48:47

archlinux-menus: Necessary?

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Re: archlinux-menus: Necessary?

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Re: archlinux-menus: Necessary?

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