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#1 2006-09-26 09:14:58

brazzmonkey
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Registered: 2006-03-16
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hardware upgrade - how to update ?

hi everyone,

as i told in some other thread, my mobo and PSU recently failed. so i took the opportunity to upgrade my faulty hardware. eventually i'll upgrade my system a bit more than i first planned sot there should be quite some changes involved. amongst them :

- mobo upgrade (via kt133 to nvidia nforce3 250)
- cpu upgrade (duron 1300 to athlon64 3700+)
- new sound device (sblive to 7.1 realtek integrated to mobo)
- new nic (i don't recall the specs)
- new memory (sdram pc133 to ddr pc3200)

(not really cutting-edge, but still...)

i never upgraded hardware since i've been using linux, but i expect a kernel recompilation should be sufficient (i mainly use a custom kernel). am i right ?

here are a few more questions :

- should this works properly ? i mean, i hope this hardware will be linux-compatible... if i boot a generic arch kernel, will it be able to detect all new hardware properly (wihtout further configuring) ?
- is there any point for me to switch to arch64 ? can i do this from an existing 32-bit installation ?
- should i enable smp ?
- any other stuff i should take care of ?

tia !


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#2 2006-09-26 09:40:52

chrismortimore
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Registered: 2006-07-15
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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

brazzmonkey wrote:

i never upgraded hardware since i've been using linux, but i expect a kernel recompilation should be sufficient (i mainly use a custom kernel). am i right ?

Should do.  You might need to change some hardware-dependant configs for software, like lm_sensors and possibly alsa, but nothing too taxing.

brazzmonkey wrote:

- should this works properly ? i mean, i hope this hardware will be linux-compatible... if i boot a generic arch kernel, will it be able to detect all new hardware properly (wihtout further configuring) ?

The arch kernel will do everything for you, it autodetects all your hardware on boot and Just Works (tm).  At least it's meant to...

brazzmonkey wrote:

- is there any point for me to switch to arch64 ? can i do this from an existing 32-bit installation ?

Depends, I found 64bit isn't worth the hassle yet, because of things like win32codecs not working without a chroot environment, and browser plugin issues.  Might be worth it for you though, I'm sure there is a wiki about it.  And you'll need to reinstall.

brazzmonkey wrote:

- should i enable smp ?

No, you have a uni-core processor.

brazzmonkey wrote:

- any other stuff i should take care of ?

Well, I could go a sandwich just now.... wink


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#3 2006-09-26 09:59:40

brazzmonkey
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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

chrismortimore wrote:
brazzmonkey wrote:

- should i enable smp ?

No, you have a uni-core processor.

oh, i though this amd hypertransport thing was just like intel's hyperthreading... looks like it's not actually.

thanks chrismortimore ! and bon appétit !


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#4 2006-09-26 10:03:15

chrismortimore
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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

This is hypertransport: http://www.x86-secret.com/pics/cpu/k8-2/httex.jpg
And don't even get me started on hyperthreading tongue


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#5 2006-09-26 10:21:42

brazzmonkey
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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

i get error 403. what's wrong with hyperthreading ? wink


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#6 2006-09-26 12:59:17

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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

I upgraded from an athlon 3200+ to a pentium D 945 on Friday night, replacing (obviously) the mobo and a few other things as well.  The only thing I did to prepare for this was remove my sensorsd stuff from rc.local and re-run sensors-detect when I rebooted.  Everything else "Just Worked" without my input.  Frankly I was amazed - I was expecting at least *some* hassle.  I imagine your upgrade would be much the same, but do your backups just the same smile


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#7 2006-09-26 13:08:29

chrismortimore
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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

brazzmonkey wrote:

what's wrong with hyperthreading ? wink

I'll do the condensed rant wink

Basically, I found that instead of improving performance, it slowed everything down.  I tweaked as much as I possibly could think of, and couldn't get it to behave, so gave up.  Luckily it wasn't my box, it was a borrowed box, so not my problem tongue

The image is from this page: http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/cpu/k8-2/a64-2.htm
I pointed you to the one at the bottom.  Sadly, my french isn't good enough to understand the rest of the page... sad


Desktop: AMD Athlon64 3800+ Venice Core, 2GB PC3200, 2x160GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10, 2x320GB WD Caviar RE, Nvidia 6600GT 256MB
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#8 2006-09-26 13:24:45

brazzmonkey
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Re: hardware upgrade - how to update ?

alrighty then !
thanks both of you for your feedback. i should be ready by tomorrow evening if everything goes smoothly.


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