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#1 2021-04-04 06:29:48

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Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

I can ping google.com and archlinux.org with no problem whatsoever, but every single mirror I've tried to ping gives me this error.

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#2 2021-04-04 06:59:05

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

You can't ping protocols this way.
Whatever your update problem is has nothing to do w/ "ping http://google.com" not working, that's perfectly expected.

The problem is likely w/ the particular mirror, use reflector.
https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/reflector/

Otherwise please post teh exact and actual errors you're facing.

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#3 2021-04-04 07:18:57

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

I actually initially ran into this problem because of issues with reflector.  I'd get timeouts for every single server, regardless of the value I set --download-timeout to (tried up to 120s).  I thought the reason for the error was that I couldn't connect to http:// servers (I really have very little understanding of ip mechanisms), but after trying to ping about 20 mirrors without http:// or https://, I received the same error.  So it looks like my issue is that I can't connect to mirrors.

Here's the output of my recent reflector trial: 

reflector --verbose --latest 20 --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist 

[2021-04-04 00:06:16] INFO: rating 20 mirror(s) by download speed
[2021-04-04 00:06:16] INFO: Server                                               Rate       Time
[2021-04-04 00:06:24] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:06:24] INFO: https://archlinux.thaller.ws/                  0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:06:29] WARNING: failed to rate rsync download (rsync://archlinux.thaller.ws/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:06:29] INFO: rsync://archlinux.thaller.ws/archlinux/        0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:06:35] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://mirror.pseudoform.org/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:06:35] INFO: https://mirror.pseudoform.org/                 0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:06:40] WARNING: failed to rate rsync download (rsync://mirror.pseudoform.org/packages/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:06:40] INFO: rsync://mirror.pseudoform.org/packages/        0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:06:48] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://mirror.pkgbuild.com/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:06:48] INFO: https://mirror.pkgbuild.com/                   0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:06:53] WARNING: failed to rate rsync download (rsync://mirror.pkgbuild.com/packages/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:06:53] INFO: rsync://mirror.pkgbuild.com/packages/          0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:06] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://europe.mirror.pkgbuild.com/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:06] INFO: https://europe.mirror.pkgbuild.com/            0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:11] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://america.mirror.pkgbuild.com/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:11] INFO: https://america.mirror.pkgbuild.com/           0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:17] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://asia.mirror.pkgbuild.com/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:17] INFO: https://asia.mirror.pkgbuild.com/              0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:24] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (http://arch.mirror.square-r00t.net/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:24] INFO: http://arch.mirror.square-r00t.net/            0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:29] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://arch.mirror.square-r00t.net/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:29] INFO: https://arch.mirror.square-r00t.net/           0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:34] WARNING: failed to rate rsync download (rsync://arch.mirror.square-r00t.net/arch/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:34] INFO: rsync://arch.mirror.square-r00t.net/arch/      0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:40] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (http://mirror.f4st.host/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:40] INFO: http://mirror.f4st.host/archlinux/             0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:46] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://mirror.f4st.host/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:46] INFO: https://mirror.f4st.host/archlinux/            0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:51] WARNING: failed to rate rsync download (rsync://mirror.f4st.host/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:51] INFO: rsync://mirror.f4st.host/archlinux/            0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:07:56] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (http://mirror.lty.me/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:07:56] INFO: http://mirror.lty.me/archlinux/                0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:08:02] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://mirror.lty.me/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:08:02] INFO: https://mirror.lty.me/archlinux/               0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:08:07] WARNING: failed to rate rsync download (rsync://mirror.lty.me/archlinux/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:08:07] INFO: rsync://mirror.lty.me/archlinux/               0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:08:13] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/arch/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:08:13] INFO: http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/arch/                    0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s
[2021-04-04 00:08:19] WARNING: failed to rate http(s) download (https://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/arch/community/os/x86_64/community.db): Download timed out after 5 second(s).
[2021-04-04 00:08:19] INFO: https://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/arch/                   0.00 KiB/s     0.00 s

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#4 2021-04-04 07:24:41

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

No problems accessing https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/ … mmunity.db from here.
Output of

ping -c1 google.com
ping -c1 archlinux.thaller.ws
ip a
ip r

Likely cause is that you've IPv6 but no IPv4 access.

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#5 2021-04-04 07:38:06

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

ping -c1 google.com:

PING google.com (142.250.81.110) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from qro02s22-in-f14.1e100.net (142.250.81.110): icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=20.0 ms

--- google.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 20.016/20.016/20.016/0.000 ms

ping -c1 archlinux.thaller.ws:

PING archlinux.thaller.ws (167.233.8.148) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from static.148.8.233.167.clients.your-server.de (167.233.8.148): icmp_seq=1 ttl=34 time=216 ms

--- archlinux.thaller.ws ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 216.298/216.298/216.298/0.000 ms

ip a:

1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: enp39s0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 2c:f0:5d:3e:0e:f5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.1.106/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute enp39s0
       valid_lft 5304sec preferred_lft 5304sec
    inet6 fe80::79a4:8c76:bb5e:b0a9/64 scope link noprefixroute 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: enp38s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 2c:f0:5d:3e:0e:f6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
4: wlo1: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 62:44:b9:64:92:fc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff permaddr 14:f6:d8:6a:f1:85
    altname wlp40s0

ip r:

default via 192.168.1.1 dev enp39s0 proto dhcp metric 100 
192.168.1.0/24 dev enp39s0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.106 metric 100

I do only see Inet6, Inet4 is nowhere to be found.  How do I go about enabling ipv4? Appreciate the help, btw.

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#6 2021-04-04 07:51:34

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

That's "inet" - you do have an IPv4 lease on enp39s0, you do resolve IPv4 addresses and you actually did ping archlinux.thaller.ws fine.
Sanity check:

find /etc/systemd -type l -exec test -f {} \; -print | awk -F'/' '{ printf ("%-40s | %s\n", $(NF-0), $(NF-1)) }' | sort -f

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#7 2021-04-04 08:05:17

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

Uh oh. Sanity check doesn't sound good, lol. 

Little extra info if this helps: I'm sure this is not a router issue or DNS issue, as I ran into this same problem on a different router/ip address on a different fresh install. 

Here's the output of that command:

bluetooth.service                        | bluetooth.target.wants
dbus-org.bluez.service                   | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service | system
dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service    | system
dirmngr.socket                           | sockets.target.wants
display-manager.service                  | system
getty@tty1.service                       | getty.target.wants
gpg-agent-browser.socket                 | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-extra.socket                   | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent.socket                         | sockets.target.wants
gpg-agent-ssh.socket                     | sockets.target.wants
NetworkManager.service                   | multi-user.target.wants
NetworkManager-wait-online.service       | network-online.target.wants
p11-kit-server.socket                    | sockets.target.wants
pamac-cleancache.timer                   | multi-user.target.wants
pipewire.socket                          | sockets.target.wants
pulseaudio.socket                        | sockets.target.wants
remote-fs.target                         | multi-user.target.wants
snapd.socket                             | sockets.target.wants
systemd-resolved.service                 | multi-user.target.wants
xdg-user-dirs-update.service             | default.target.wants

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#8 2021-04-04 08:17:01

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

Let´s see the output of

curl -Iv https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/os/x86_64/community.db

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#9 2021-04-04 08:17:34

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

Sanity check to ensure you're not running concurrent network services - you don't.

 wget -O /dev/null https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/os/x86_64/community.db
curl --verbose https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/os/x86_64/community.db > /dev/null

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#10 2021-04-04 08:24:38

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

Thanks for the reply Tucuxi,

Here's the output:

*   Trying 167.233.8.148:443...
* Connected to archlinux.thaller.ws (167.233.8.148) port 443 (#0)
* ALPN, offering h2
* ALPN, offering http/1.1
* successfully set certificate verify locations:
*  CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
*  CApath: none
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Encrypted Extensions (8):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Certificate (11):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, CERT verify (15):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS change cipher, Change cipher spec (1):
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
* SSL connection using TLSv1.3 / TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
* ALPN, server accepted to use h2
* Server certificate:
*  subject: CN=archlinux.thaller.ws
*  start date: Mar 10 15:46:47 2021 GMT
*  expire date: Jun  8 15:46:47 2021 GMT
*  subjectAltName: host "archlinux.thaller.ws" matched cert's "archlinux.thaller.ws"
*  issuer: C=US; O=Let's Encrypt; CN=R3
*  SSL certificate verify ok.
* Using HTTP2, server supports multi-use
* Connection state changed (HTTP/2 confirmed)
* Copying HTTP/2 data in stream buffer to connection buffer after upgrade: len=0
* Using Stream ID: 1 (easy handle 0x5654a46df920)
> HEAD /community/os/x86_64/community.db HTTP/2
> Host: archlinux.thaller.ws
> user-agent: curl/7.76.0
> accept: */*
> 
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Newsession Ticket (4):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Newsession Ticket (4):
* old SSL session ID is stale, removing
* Connection state changed (MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS == 100)!
< HTTP/2 200 
HTTP/2 200 
< server: nginx
server: nginx
< date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 08:22:12 GMT
date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 08:22:12 GMT
< content-type: application/octet-stream
content-type: application/octet-stream
< content-length: 5733481
content-length: 5733481
< last-modified: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 08:03:04 GMT
last-modified: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 08:03:04 GMT
< etag: "606972b8-577c69"
etag: "606972b8-577c69"
< accept-ranges: bytes
accept-ranges: bytes
< x-cache-status: MISS
x-cache-status: MISS

< 
* Connection #0 to host archlinux.thaller.ws left intact

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#11 2021-04-04 08:30:34

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

output of wget -O /dev/null https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/ … mmunity.db:

--2021-04-04 01:25:18--  https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/os/x86_64/community.db
Loaded CA certificate '/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt'
Resolving archlinux.thaller.ws (archlinux.thaller.ws)... 167.233.8.148, 2a01:4f8:1c1d:10d::1
Connecting to archlinux.thaller.ws (archlinux.thaller.ws)|167.233.8.148|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5733481 (5.5M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘/dev/null’

/dev/null                   100%[==========================================>]   5.47M   666KB/s    in 15s     

2021-04-04 01:25:35 (380 KB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [5733481/5733481]

666 kbit/s, spooky, is my peak download speed btw.  My internet connection is awful where I'm staying atm.

curl --verbose https://archlinux.thaller.ws/community/ … mmunity.db > /dev/null:

  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0*   Trying 167.233.8.148:443...
*   Trying 2a01:4f8:1c1d:10d::1:443...
* Immediate connect fail for 2a01:4f8:1c1d:10d::1: Network is unreachable
* Connected to archlinux.thaller.ws (167.233.8.148) port 443 (#0)
* ALPN, offering h2
* ALPN, offering http/1.1
* successfully set certificate verify locations:
*  CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
*  CApath: none
} [5 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
} [512 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2):
{ [122 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Encrypted Extensions (8):
{ [19 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Certificate (11):
{ [2733 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, CERT verify (15):
{ [520 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
{ [36 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS change cipher, Change cipher spec (1):
} [1 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
} [36 bytes data]
* SSL connection using TLSv1.3 / TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
* ALPN, server accepted to use h2
* Server certificate:
*  subject: CN=archlinux.thaller.ws
*  start date: Mar 10 15:46:47 2021 GMT
*  expire date: Jun  8 15:46:47 2021 GMT
*  subjectAltName: host "archlinux.thaller.ws" matched cert's "archlinux.thaller.ws"
*  issuer: C=US; O=Let's Encrypt; CN=R3
*  SSL certificate verify ok.
* Using HTTP2, server supports multi-use
* Connection state changed (HTTP/2 confirmed)
* Copying HTTP/2 data in stream buffer to connection buffer after upgrade: len=0
} [5 bytes data]
* Using Stream ID: 1 (easy handle 0x55f2a38a1920)
} [5 bytes data]
> GET /community/os/x86_64/community.db HTTP/2
> Host: archlinux.thaller.ws
> user-agent: curl/7.76.0
> accept: */*
> 
{ [5 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Newsession Ticket (4):
{ [57 bytes data]
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Newsession Ticket (4):
{ [57 bytes data]
* old SSL session ID is stale, removing
{ [5 bytes data]
* Connection state changed (MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS == 100)!
} [5 bytes data]
  0     0    0     0    0     0      0      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--     0< HTTP/2 200 
< server: nginx
< date: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 08:25:51 GMT
< content-type: application/octet-stream
< content-length: 5733481
< last-modified: Sun, 04 Apr 2021 08:03:04 GMT
< etag: "606972b8-577c69"
< accept-ranges: bytes
< x-cache-status: MISS
< 
{ [14010 bytes data]
100 5599k  100 5599k    0     0   507k      0  0:00:11  0:00:11 --:--:--  676k
* Connection #0 to host archlinux.thaller.ws left intact

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#12 2021-04-04 08:49:38

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

There's no error in the downloads, sure the original issue remains?

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#13 2021-04-04 20:04:03

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

seth wrote:

There's no error in the downloads, sure the original issue remains?

Well dl speed was fine but looks like I still cannot ping mirrors.

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#14 2021-04-04 20:12:19

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

Yes you can and you did in #5
Again: you cannot do something like "ping http://google.de" - that is not a problem on your side. ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol, "ping") and http are different protocols.
We had you successfully download a database from the mirror in #10 & #11, somehing that had failed in #3.
Therefore and because of

My internet connection is awful where I'm staying atm.

I assume you were/are facing an intermittent issue?

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#15 2021-04-04 20:43:43

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

I guess I just don't understand why every single mirror on reflector times out.  The connection here is definitely terrible, but my dl speed back home is 500mbps and even there I'd see all mirrors timeout when I tried to run reflector.  Another piece of info is that "pacman-mirrors fasttrack" on the Manjaro OS I was using a few days ago would result in about 1/2 of the mirrors timing out but the other half being rated and sorted.  Reflector has yet to rate a single mirror despite seemingly every other network-related task running flawlessly, which is extremely confusing/frustrating.  Maybe I should go back to Manjaro until I have the free time to dive into linuxjourney.com, and get a better understanding of this stuff before coming back to arch.

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#16 2021-04-04 20:50:18

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Re: Error: "Name or service not known" when pinging any mirror

Reflector has yet to rate a single mirror despite seemingly every other network-related task running flawlessly

So the issue isn't actually that you can't ping mirrors, but *only* w/ reflector?
A hand-written mirrorlist (or generated from https://archlinux.org/mirrorlist/ ) works?

What if you give it more time?

reflector --verbose --download-timeout 100 --latest 20 --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

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