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#1 2021-02-25 08:12:30

quang.luan
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Runnit

Why it's worse than system.d and why we don't use it yet? Haven't been multicoring and multithreading a future? Do linux developers even know what posix thread is?

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#2 2021-02-25 08:13:14

quang.luan
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Re: Runnit

I think packages aren't incompatible with runnit, but it just misses d-bus.

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#3 2021-02-25 09:24:02

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Re: Runnit

Will it require our devs to maintain initscripts again? If so, then that is one of the reasons, after all, Arch should evolve in being easier for the devs to maintain, not harder, hopefully.

Systemd is the default because it’s easy for it to be the default, and it’s easy as well to replace it with something else if you wish.

At least that’s what noob methinks with all the noobledge I have.


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#4 2021-02-25 12:37:12

Buddlespit
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Re: Runnit

I couldn't find (Google) anything about runnit, but I do see runit, and the AUR has a couple PKGBUILD's for it. If you have access to it, and it's available to you, I don't see why you couldn't use it. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, will stop you if you do use it.

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#5 2021-02-25 18:24:40

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Re: Runnit

quang.luan wrote:

why we don't use it yet?

Yet? The last upstream release for runit was back in 2014. The version in Debian oldoldstable is still current neutral

Have you seen https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 0#p1149530? It's an old post but it gives a pretty good overview of why the Arch devs chose systemd.

EDIT:

GaKu999 wrote:

noobledge

Excellent, I'm stealing that tongue

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2021-02-25 18:26:11)

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#6 2021-02-27 14:45:21

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Re: Runnit

quang.luan wrote:

Why it's worse than system.d […]

Is it? Who claimed that? How do you define "worse"?

[…] and why we don't use it yet?

*points to Head_on_a_Stick's post above*

Haven't been multicoring and multithreading a future?

What do you mean with this? What is "multicoring" in this context? I guess using multiple CPU cores and threads is not quite "a future" as it's much more "the present".

Do linux developers even know what posix thread is?

The Linux (kernel) developers probably don't care much about init systems beyond the point where specific init systems interact with specific features in the kernel (e.g. cgroups with systemd).
And I'm fairly certain they know what a POSIX thread is.
And if you are referring to maintainers of specific Linux distributions, I'm fairly certain most of them know what POSIX threads are, too (though I guess it also depends what level of expertise on POSIX threads you demand).

But how is this related to run(n)it?


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#7 2021-03-05 23:05:50

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Re: Runnit

If you want Arch Linux without SystemD you can always use Artix, I'm sure it's a fine distro.


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#8 2021-04-10 20:15:15

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Re: Runnit

I'm using runnit on Void Linux, it's running in a VM.  It's stable, fast, and runs well.


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