Archlinux sometimes slow to start applications

Razer(x) · 2021-05-06 09:12:40

Not sure why, sometimes starting programs take 20-30 seconds

Here is the journactl dump

Can anyone help me?

seth · 2021-05-06 09:22:36

The file you requested has been deleted

Sounds like a dbus timeout because of a broken session bus. Could be a (known) flatpak/portal issue (iirc mostly affects GTK clients)

Razer(x) · 2021-05-06 09:41:00

seth wrote:

The file you requested has been deleted
Sounds like a dbus timeout because of a broken session bus. Could be a (known) flatpak/portal issue (iirc mostly affects GTK clients)

Any fix / workaround?

As far as i know i do not have Flatpak apps

Last edited by Razer(x) (2021-05-06 10:10:30)

seth · 2021-05-06 13:41:37

We'll first have to figure whether that's the case.

loginctl session-status
ps aux | grep dbus

To see whether you've an active session(bus) and how many dbus instances.

pacman -Qs '(portal|flatpak)'

Is flatpak or libportal installed at all?

Finally

strace -tf someprogram 2>&1 | tee /tmp/someprogram.strace

so you can see where it hangs and whether that's related to some socket.

Razer(x) · 2021-05-06 21:08:11

I have just started Arch, so the issue might not have appeared yet

Since: Thu 2021-05-06 23:00:24 CEST; 4min 35s ago
Leader: 770 (gdm-session-wor)
Seat: seat0; vc2
TTY: tty2
Service: gdm-autologin; type x11; class user
State: active
Unit: session-1.scope
├─770 gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-autologin]
├─790 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
├─794 /usr/lib/gdm-x-session --run-script /usr/bin/gnome-session
├─796 /usr/lib/Xorg vt2 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -nolisten tcp -background none -noreset -keeptty -novtswitch -verbose 3
└─804 /usr/lib/gnome-session-binary
mag 06 23:00:31 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-5: 2670.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
mag 06 23:00:31 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0):
mag 06 23:00:31 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-6: disconnected
mag 06 23:00:31 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-6: Internal TMDS
mag 06 23:00:31 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): DFP-6: 165.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
mag 06 23:00:31 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0):
mag 06 23:04:10 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (EE) event4 - Logitech G305: client bug: event processing lagging behind by 11ms, your system is too slow
mag 06 23:04:16 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-2ms), your system is too slow
mag 06 23:04:55 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce: scheduled expiry is in the past (-11ms), your system is too slow
mag 06 23:04:55 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[796]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-24ms), your system is too slow

dbus 676 0.0 0.0 13328 6840 ? Ss 23:00 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog-only
alessan+ 802 0.0 0.0 12872 6556 ? Ss 23:00 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog-only
alessan+ 837 0.0 0.0 11844 5528 ? S 23:00 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork --print-address 3
alessan+ 2538 0.0 0.0 6420 2284 pts/2 S+ 23:06 0:00 grep dbus

~ >>> pacman -Qs '(portal|flatpak)'
local/libportal 0.3-2
GIO-style async APIs for most Flatpak portals

Razer(x) · 2021-05-09 01:10:16

Anyone?

seth · 2021-05-09 06:21:54

seth wrote:

Finally
strace -tf someprogram 2>&1 | tee /tmp/someprogram.strace
so you can see where it hangs and whether that's related to some socket.

kokoko3k · 2021-05-09 06:47:33

If the problem is the one pointed by seth, you could try the solution here:
https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop- … issues/570

Razer(x) · 2021-05-12 21:56:29

seth wrote:

seth wrote:
Finally
strace -tf someprogram 2>&1 | tee /tmp/someprogram.strace
so you can see where it hangs and whether that's related to some socket.

Which program should i point it to?

kokoko3k wrote:

If the problem is the one pointed by seth, you could try the solution here:
https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop- … issues/570

I am not using Pipewire

In the journal i see a lot of Gnome errors and one Spotify dump

kokoko3k · 2021-05-13 05:00:26

Razer(x) wrote:

I am not using Pipewire

Neither do I, but that didn't stopped it from giving me that problem.
If not done yet, try to merge your pacnew file and reboot/restart your session.

As for the strace question, do that on a program that hangs.

Last edited by kokoko3k (2021-05-13 05:03:31)

seth · 2021-05-13 05:56:56

Razer(x) wrote:

Which program should i point it to?

I don't know. Maybe - just a crazy idea - one that's slow to start?
Bonus points if it's a simple one (some color picker would generate far less noise in the strace than an IDE or a browser)

Razer(x) · 2021-05-17 08:54:48

seth wrote:

Razer(x) wrote:
Which program should i point it to?
I don't know. Maybe - just a crazy idea - one that's slow to start?
Bonus points if it's a simple one (some color picker would generate far less noise in the strace than an IDE or a browser)

Says file does not exist

sudo mv /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf.pacnew /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf                                                     
[sudo] password di alessandro: 
mv: impossibile eseguire stat di '/etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf.pacnew': File o directory non esistente

kokoko3k wrote:

Razer(x) wrote:
I am not using Pipewire
Neither do I, but that didn't stopped it from giving me that problem.
If not done yet, try to merge your pacnew file and reboot/restart your session.
As for the strace question, do that on a program that hangs.

Problem is is not a single problem and i cannot prevent it, since it makes it one time then the second time i start the program it's fine

For example it just took me 30 seconds just to be able to type in the terminal, shell should not pop up

seth · 2021-05-17 11:05:57

How did you read

sudo mv /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf.pacnew /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf

out of

strace -tf someprogram 2>&1 | tee /tmp/someprogram.strace

????

Razer(x) · 2021-05-17 18:03:41

seth wrote:

How did you read
sudo mv /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf.pacnew /etc/pipewire/pipewire.conf
out of
strace -tf someprogram 2>&1 | tee /tmp/someprogram.strace
????

I quoted the opposite comment, as i stated i cannot do this because there is no way to know when the issue is going to happen, it's totally random

Razer(x) · 2021-05-22 09:56:10

Happened again

mag 22 11:47:04 archlinux gnome-shell[2958]: [Child 2958, MediaDecoderStateMachine #1] WARNING: Decoder=7f5894399400 state=DECODING_METADATA Decode metadata failed, shutting down decoder: file /build/firefox/src/firefox-88.0.1/dom/media/MediaDecoderStateMachine>
mag 22 11:47:04 archlinux gnome-shell[2958]: [Child 2958, MediaDecoderStateMachine #1] WARNING: Decoder=7f5894399400 Decode error: NS_ERROR_DOM_MEDIA_METADATA_ERR (0x806e0006) - static MP4Metadata::ResultAndByteBuffer mozilla::MP4Metadata::Metadata(mozilla::Byt>
mag 22 11:47:26 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[721]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-9ms), your system is too slow
mag 22 11:49:00 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[721]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce: scheduled expiry is in the past (-27ms), your system is too slow
mag 22 11:49:00 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[721]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-40ms), your system is too slow
mag 22 11:51:21 archlinux systemd[705]: Started Application launched by gnome-shell.
mag 22 11:51:34 archlinux dbus-daemon[727]: [session uid=1000 pid=727] Activating service name='org.gnome.Nautilus' requested by ':1.22' (uid=1000 pid=788 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ")
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux systemd[705]: Started Application launched by gnome-shell.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux systemd[705]: Started VTE child process 4288 launched by gnome-terminal-server process 1245.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux systemd[705]: app-gnome-org.gnome.Terminal-4283.scope: Deactivated successfully.
mag 22 11:51:40 archlinux gnome-shell[2559]: ###!!! [Parent][RunMessage] Error: Channel closing: too late to send/recv, messages will be lost
mag 22 11:51:40 archlinux gnome-shell[2559]: ###!!! [Parent][RunMessage] Error: Channel closing: too late to send/recv, messages will be lost
mag 22 11:51:49 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libhspell.so.0: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:51 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libvoikko.so.1: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:51 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libaspell.so.15: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:52 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libnuspell.so.4: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:59 archlinux org.gnome.Epiphany.WebApp-whatsapp-b336fc558722224b7ffe98607055d55f0fe52450.desktop[4340]: (WebKitWebProcess:2): dbind-WARNING **: 11:51:59.981: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-em5KOKYaps: F>
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 36 with keysym 36 (keycode f).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff54 with keysym ff54 (keycode 74).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 38 with keysym 38 (keycode 11).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 37 with keysym 37 (keycode 10).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 39 with keysym 39 (keycode 12).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff53 with keysym ff53 (keycode 72).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 6f with keysym 6f (keycode 20).
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 73 with keysym 73 (keycode 27).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 32 with keysym 32 (keycode b).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff52 with keysym ff52 (keycode 6f).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 31 with keysym 31 (keycode a).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 33 with keysym 33 (keycode c).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 34 with keysym 34 (keycode d).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff54 with keysym ff54 (keycode 74).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff52 with keysym ff52 (keycode 6f).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 35 with keysym 35 (keycode e).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff51 with keysym ff51 (keycode 71).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 36 with keysym 36 (keycode f).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff54 with keysym ff54 (keycode 74).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 38 with keysym 38 (keycode 11).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 37 with keysym 37 (keycode 10).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 39 with keysym 39 (keycode 12).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym ff53 with keysym ff53 (keycode 72).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 6f with keysym 6f (keycode 20).
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Window manager warning: Overwriting existing binding of keysym 73 with keysym 73 (keycode 27).
mag 22 11:47:04 archlinux gnome-shell[2958]: [Child 2958, MediaDecoderStateMachine #1] WARNING: Decoder=7f5894399400 state=DECODING_METADATA Decode metadata failed, shutting down decoder: file /build/firefox/src/firefox-88.0.1/dom/media/MediaDecoderStateMachine>
mag 22 11:47:04 archlinux gnome-shell[2958]: [Child 2958, MediaDecoderStateMachine #1] WARNING: Decoder=7f5894399400 Decode error: NS_ERROR_DOM_MEDIA_METADATA_ERR (0x806e0006) - static MP4Metadata::ResultAndByteBuffer mozilla::MP4Metadata::Metadata(mozilla::Byt>
mag 22 11:47:26 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[721]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-9ms), your system is too slow
mag 22 11:49:00 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[721]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce: scheduled expiry is in the past (-27ms), your system is too slow
mag 22 11:49:00 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[721]: (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-40ms), your system is too slow
mag 22 11:51:21 archlinux systemd[705]: Started Application launched by gnome-shell.
mag 22 11:51:34 archlinux dbus-daemon[727]: [session uid=1000 pid=727] Activating service name='org.gnome.Nautilus' requested by ':1.22' (uid=1000 pid=788 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-shell ")
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux systemd[705]: Started Application launched by gnome-shell.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux systemd[705]: Started VTE child process 4288 launched by gnome-terminal-server process 1245.
mag 22 11:51:38 archlinux systemd[705]: app-gnome-org.gnome.Terminal-4283.scope: Deactivated successfully.
mag 22 11:51:40 archlinux gnome-shell[2559]: ###!!! [Parent][RunMessage] Error: Channel closing: too late to send/recv, messages will be lost
mag 22 11:51:40 archlinux gnome-shell[2559]: ###!!! [Parent][RunMessage] Error: Channel closing: too late to send/recv, messages will be lost
mag 22 11:51:49 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libhspell.so.0: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:51 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libvoikko.so.1: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:51 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libaspell.so.15: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:52 archlinux epiphany[4264]: Error loading plugin: libnuspell.so.4: impossibile aprire il file oggetto condiviso: File o directory non esistente
mag 22 11:51:59 archlinux org.gnome.Epiphany.WebApp-whatsapp-b336fc558722224b7ffe98607055d55f0fe52450.desktop[4340]: (WebKitWebProcess:2): dbind-WARNING **: 11:51:59.981: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-em5KOKYaps: F>
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:51 archlinux dbus-daemon[727]: [session uid=1000 pid=727] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Nautilus'
mag 22 11:52:51 archlinux systemd[705]: app-gnome-org.gnome.Epiphany.WebApp\x2dwhatsapp\x2db336fc558722224b7ffe98607055d55f0fe52450-4264.scope: Deactivated successfully.
mag 22 11:52:51 archlinux systemd[705]: app-gnome-org.gnome.Epiphany.WebApp\x2dwhatsapp\x2db336fc558722224b7ffe98607055d55f0fe52450-4264.scope: Consumed 1.428s CPU time.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux dbus-daemon[727]: [session uid=1000 pid=727] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Metadata' unit='gvfs-metadata.service' requested by ':1.107' (uid=1000 pid=4272 comm="/usr/bin/nautilus --gapplication-service ")
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux systemd[705]: Starting Virtual filesystem metadata service...
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux dbus-daemon[727]: [session uid=1000 pid=727] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Metadata'
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux systemd[705]: Started Virtual filesystem metadata service.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[2559]: ###!!! [Parent][RunMessage] Error: Channel closing: too late to send/recv, messages will be lost
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[2559]: ###!!! [Parent][RunMessage] Error: Channel closing: too late to send/recv, messages will be lost
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:52 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:56 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Some code accessed the property 'discreteGpuAvailable' on the module 'appDisplay'. That property was defined with 'let' or 'const' inside the module. This was previously supported, but is not correct according to the >
mag 22 11:52:56 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: percentage lengths not currently supported
mag 22 11:52:57 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: percentage lengths not currently supported
mag 22 11:52:57 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:57 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:52:57 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:53:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:53:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:53:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:53:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:53:46 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:54:29 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:54:29 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:54:29 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:54:32 archlinux systemd[705]: Started Application launched by gnome-shell.
mag 22 11:54:33 archlinux systemd[705]: Started VTE child process 4529 launched by gnome-terminal-server process 1245.
mag 22 11:54:33 archlinux systemd[705]: app-gnome-org.gnome.Terminal-4524.scope: Deactivated successfully.
mag 22 11:54:33 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowGroup is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:54:33 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaWindowActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.
mag 22 11:54:33 archlinux gnome-shell[788]: Can't update stage views actor MetaSurfaceActorX11 is on because it needs an allocation.

seth · 2021-05-22 14:04:53

"Happened again" with what?
The journal covers 15 minutes and shows mostly a bunch on gnome-shell errors, some slow-ish event handling (couple of ms), epiphany not finding some plugins and nautilus and some gnome-terminal instances being launched.

What's a bit suspicious is an apparent tiem jump:

mag 22 11:52:01 archlinux gnome-shell
mag 22 11:39:46 archlinux gnome-shell
…
mag 22 11:40:46 archlinux gnome-shell
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mag 22 11:47:04 archlinux gnome-shell
mag 22 11:47:26 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session
mag 22 11:49:00 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session
mag 22 11:49:00 archlinux /usr/lib/gdm-x-session
mag 22 11:51:21 archlinux systemd

But since this apparently copypasted out of the pager, this could be just as much a user error.

And then there's

mag 22 11:51:59 archlinux org.gnome.Epiphany.WebApp-whatsapp-b336fc558722224b7ffe98607055d55f0fe52450.desktop[4340]: (WebKitWebProcess:2): dbind-WARNING **: 11:51:59.981: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-em5KOKYaps: F>

Try to "export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1" to the session, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Environment_variables

Razer(x) · 2021-05-24 16:33:51

It does not happen with a specific software, it looks like a system slowdown, in that frame of time, every program i try to open is REALLY slow to startup (terminal starts but takes 20 seconds for me to be able to type), also i tried starting Nautilus and did the same

After 30-40 seconds everything is back to normal, already opened applications do not seem to be affected

I have done what you asked about that variable

seth · 2021-05-24 17:27:33

"terminal" and "nautilus" are both rather specific in that they're gnome applications.
"system slowdown" is defeated by "already opened applications do not seem to be affected"

If it's not the ATSPI bus, you'll *have* to get a timed strace to get this anywhere.

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