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#1 2021-08-05 10:55:26

archelvetic
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[solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

My gpu doesn't work anymore after updating[0].

Thus I restore the backup and everything works again.

Now having everything working again and looking at the packages with 

payman -Su

, I only see 

nvidia-settings

grepping the packages to be upgraded.

Therefore I'm understanding that 

nvidia-settings

must be the root of all evil.

Yet, after 

pacman -Su --ignore libxnvctrl-465.31-1 nvidia-settings

(and confirming it's not listed on the packages to update anymore) I'm again facing the same problem[0].

So, how to update and have nvidia left out of this?

[0] nvidia-smi-> No devices found -> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=268481

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#2 2021-08-05 11:49:22

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

nvidia-settings is optional and basically irrelevant to any actual usage

It is extremely unlikely to be related to your issue, unless you have a login script that explicitly invokes it. Which other packages are part of that update?

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#3 2021-08-05 12:52:15

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

sudo pacman -Su

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               ca-certificates-utils-20210603-1  enchant-2.2.15-3  ffmpeg-2:4.4-4  ghc-libs-8.10.5-1  git-2.32.0-1  gnuplot-5.4.2-1  gptfdisk-1.0.8-1  haskell-aeson-1.5.6.0-31  haskell-aeson-pretty-0.8.8-169
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               inetutils-2.0-1  inkscape-1.1-4  isync-1.4.2-1  ledger-3.2.1-7  libcap-2.50-2  libcerf-1:1.15-1  libcmis-0.5.2-8  libedit-20210522_3.1-1  libgusb-0.3.7-1  libixion-0.16.1-6  liblouis-3.18.0-1
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               xkeyboard-config-2.33-1  xterm-368-1

uname -r (working state)

5.10.42-1-lts
sudo pacman -Qs nvidia
local/cuda 11.3.0-2
    NVIDIA's GPU programming toolkit
local/egl-wayland 1.1.7-1
    EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/libvdpau 1.4-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 465.27-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia-lts 1:465.31-6
    NVIDIA drivers for linux-lts
local/nvidia-prime 1.0-4
    NVIDIA Prime Render Offload configuration and utilities
local/nvidia-settings 465.27-1
    Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-utils 465.31-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities
local/opencl-nvidia 465.31-1
    OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA

I've appended 

libxnvctrl-465.31-1

to my inital question which I forgot to mention

Last edited by archelvetic (2021-08-05 12:56:56)

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#4 2021-08-05 14:40:38

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

The kernel module is tied to the kernel version.
Downgrading nvidia or nvidia-lts doen't work, you've to use the 465xx version of nvidia-dkms.

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#5 2021-08-05 15:19:28

archelvetic
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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

@seth

At what point can I be sure the system works on dkms?

sudo pacman -U https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/n/nvidia-dkms/nvidia-dkms-465.31-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
loading packages...
warning: nvidia-dkms-465.31-1 is up to date -- reinstalling
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (1) nvidia-dkms-465.31-1

Total Installed Size:  46.71 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:       0.00 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
(1/1) checking keys in keyring                                  [##################################] 100%(1/1) checking package integrity                                [##################################] 100%(1/1) loading package files                                     [##################################] 100%(1/1) checking for file conflicts                               [##################################] 100%(1/1) checking available disk space                             [##################################] 100%:: Running pre-transaction hooks...
(1/1) Remove upgraded DKMS modules
==> Unable to remove module nvidia/465.31 for kernel *: Not found in dkms status output.
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) reinstalling nvidia-dkms                                  [##################################] 100%:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/2) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/2) Install DKMS modules
==> Unable to install module nvidia/465.31 for kernel *: Missing kernel headers.

Yet 

pacman -Qs nvidia

lists it

local/nvidia-dkms 465.31-1
    NVIDIA drivers - module sources

However

nvidia-smi

doesn't contain lts or dkms but only 465.31

I have to admin I'm not grasping the dkms concept

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#6 2021-08-05 15:21:21

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

==> Unable to install module nvidia/465.31 for kernel *: Missing kernel headers.

https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86 … x-headers/
https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86 … s-headers/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dynami … le_Support

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#7 2021-08-05 15:51:38

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

sudo pacman -U https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/l/linux-lts-headers/linux-lts-headers-5.10.42-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst 
sudo pacman -U https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/n/nvidia-dkms/nvidia-dkms-465.31-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
sudo pacman -R nvidia-lts
sudo dkms status

nvidia, 465.31, 5.10.42-1-lts, x86_64: installed (original_module exists) (WARNI
NG! Diff between built and installed module!) (WARNING! Diff between built and i
nstalled module!) (WARNING! Diff between built and installed module!)
v4l2loopback, 0.12.5.r226.g81b8df7, 5.10.42-1-lts, x86_64: installed
v4l2loopback-dc, 1.7.3, 5.10.42-1-lts, x86_64: installed

Reboot

nvidia-smi

NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.

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#8 2021-08-05 15:54:39

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

original_module exists

get rid of the nvidia and nvidia-lts packages first, *then* trigger a dkms rebuild…

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#9 2021-08-06 09:22:27

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Re: [solved] Why does ignoring nvidia in pacman still cause gpu errors@upd

Solved. Got rid of all nvidia packages listed in pacman -Qs nvidia (even cuda) and reinstalled nvidia-dkms from the archive.

Afterwards I run 

sudo pacman -Su --ignore nvidia-dkms,nvidia-utils

and tada: Updated machine and gpu work smoothly again.

Thank you so much for holding my hand during that journey

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