Terminal Won't Open

TheNerdTastic · 2021-11-15 15:13:48

Hello,

I have just completed a fresh install from the wiki following all the steps, but I have now launched into my account but I am unable to start the terminal. The terminal works outside of the GNOME enviroment, but other than that I cannot make it run.
When I click on the shortcut, it will show that it is trying to load (system monitor will show it running) and after a few seconds it just goes away, now I realize it must be something I did wrong, I just cannot for the life of me figure out what, or how to fix it. (besides doing a fresh install, which might land me on the same spot if I do the same mistake)

Thanks for any and all help.

seth · 2021-11-15 15:20:47

Aha "the terminal" - of course it's clear what "the terminal" is - at least hopefully to you. The rest of us has no idea because … https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/List_o … _emulators there're quite some.
Also we don't know what "outside of the GNOME enviroment" would be but gnome smells gdm smells https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p2002557
But limited to the … errhemmm "information" provided, that's just a random guess.

TheNerdTastic · 2021-11-15 15:27:28

seth wrote:

Aha "the terminal" - of course it's clear what "the terminal" is - at least hopefully to you.

Well, I did mention that it is a fresh install, so I thought it was clear, but I do apologize for that, I have not installed a seperate terminal, so I am using the default one that comes with GNOME.

seth wrote:

Also we don't know what "outside of the GNOME enviroment" would be but gnome smells gdm smells https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p2002557
But limited to the … errhemmm "information" provided, that's just a random guess.

As for the "outside of GNOME" I am literally talking about the enviroment that exists if you do not have a Desktop enviroment, the same "terminal" you use when you chroot during installation, again sorry for not giving all the information.

seth · 2021-11-15 15:32:55

There's no "default" in archlinux…

So what works is the linux console and gnome-terminal does not.

Next to the recent GDM issue, gnome-terminal freaks out if you don't have a proper locale, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Locale

localectl; locale; locale -a

and it also requires a proper session setup for the session dbus (what depends on how you start the session, startx, gdm, etc… again: there's no "default" for that)

TheNerdTastic · 2021-11-15 15:36:58

seth wrote:

There's no "default" in archlinux…
So what works is the linux console and gnome-terminal does not.
Next to the recent GDM issue, gnome-terminal freaks out if you don't have a proper locale, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Locale
localectl; locale; locale -a
and it also requires a proper session setup for the session dbus (what depends on how you start the session, startx, gdm, etc… again: there's no "default" for that)

Great, I'll have a look into the locale, might have an issue with that. But, if not I'll just install a different terminal emulator, either way.
Thank you so much for your help.

TheNerdTastic · 2021-11-15 15:44:19

seth wrote:

localectl; locale; locale -a

Also, running that just prints this
System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
VC Keymap: n/a
X11 Layout: n/a
LANG=C
LC_CTYPE="C"
LC_NUMERIC="C"
LC_TIME="C"
LC_COLLATE="C"
LC_MONETARY="C"
LC_MESSAGES="C"
LC_PAPER="C"
LC_NAME="C"
LC_ADDRESS="C"
LC_TELEPHONE="C"
LC_MEASUREMENT="C"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="C"
LC_ALL=
C
POSIX
en_US.utf8

But I have installed Konsole so, I'll try and work around that.

seth · 2021-11-15 15:58:49

So, why's your locale "C" when the system locale is en_US.UTF-8?
Did you just fix that w/o a re-login?
gnome-terminal will not like the C locale, there're multiple threads around this.

=> Make sure to use a UTF-8 locale and see whether gnome-terminal then behaves.

lfitzgerald · 2021-11-16 07:18:26

Do any terminals work? Try installing a couple popular ones and see if they all crash. If you get any terminal working, you can try to launch your own terminal from it and see if it's printing any errors.

Your "default" is probably "gnome-terminal". It doesn't help that Gnome likes to call it just "terminal" - you actually have to dig around quite a bit to figure out the actual name of the program.

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