Pantheon Shell on Archlinux

Use**ame · 2021-09-13 12:46:52

Archwiki says that you can now use pantheon-session from Community. But all Pantheon does is crash with the message "Oh no! Something has gone wrong."

Okay. I had to go through the /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/pantheon.session components again, but I can't find it. Downgrading the gala version doesn't help either. Tried it on a new user, but the result is the same. No matter what I do, I get to the crash screen...

quequotion · 2021-09-15 14:01:49

Use**ame wrote:

had to go through the /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/pantheon.session components again, but I can't find it

Did you try removing each one by one? How about removing all of the gnome-settings-daemon components (could be that multiple components fail)?

I am able to log into the "Pantheon" session, but my installation isn't particularly clean.

Could you show us the output of pacman -Qs pantheon?

Here's mine:

 pacman -Qs pantheon
local/cerbere 2.5.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Watchdog
local/contractor 0.3.5-1 (pantheon)
    A desktop-wide extension service
local/elementary-blue-icon-theme-git r2262.6aa716cc-1 (pantheon-unstable)
    Classic blue folders of the elementary icon theme.
local/elementary-icon-theme 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Named, vector icons for elementary OS
local/elementary-wallpapers 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Collection of wallpapers for elementary OS
local/file-roller-pantheon 3.38.0-1 (pantheon)
    Archive manipulator for Pantheon
local/gala 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Window Manager
local/granite 6.1.1-1 (pantheon)
    Library that extends Gtk+
local/gtk-theme-elementary 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    elementary GTK theme
local/pantheon-3d 7-1 (pantheon-qq)
    Pantheon 3d Session (replaces Gala with Compiz)
local/pantheon-applications-menu 2.8.2-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Application Menu
local/pantheon-calculator 1.7.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Calculator
local/pantheon-calendar 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Calendar
local/pantheon-code 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Text Editor
local/pantheon-default-settings 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    Default settings for Pantheon
local/pantheon-dock-instctl-git r2179.4a0b6af-1 (pantheon-qq)
    The Pantheon Dock (with instance controls)
local/pantheon-files 6.0.2-2 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon File Browser
local/pantheon-lite 7-1 (pantheon-qq)
    Pantheon Lite Session (Gala replaced with openbox & picom)
local/pantheon-notifications 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Gtk Notifications Server
local/pantheon-photos 2.7.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Photos Manager
local/pantheon-polkit-agent 1.0.4-1 (pantheon)
    Pantheon Polkit Agent
local/pantheon-print 0.1.3-2
    Simple shim for printing support via Contractor
local/pantheon-qq-common 2-1 (pantheon-qq)
    Common dependencies of Pantheon 3D and Pantheon Lite
local/pantheon-session 6.0.0-2 (pantheon)
    Session settings for Pantheon
local/pantheon-settings-daemon-git 1.0.0.r18.e4b709d-1 (pantheon-unstable)
    The Pantheon Settings Daemon
local/pantheon-terminal 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Terminal Emulator
local/sound-theme-elementary 1.1.0-1 (pantheon)
    A bespoke sound for your theme
local/switchboard 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Control Center
local/switchboard-plug-datetime 2.2.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Date & Time Plug
local/switchboard-plug-desktop 6.0.0-1 (pantheon-unstable)
    Switchboard Desktop Plug
local/switchboard-plug-display 2.3.1-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Display Plug
local/wingpanel-indicator-bluetooth 2.1.8-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Bluetooth Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-datetime 2.3.0-1 (pantheon)
    Date & Time indicator for Wingpanel
local/wingpanel-indicator-power 6.1.0-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Power Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-sensors-git r30.a6f78b7-1 (pantheon-unstable)
    Sensors indicator for Wingpanel
local/wingpanel-indicator-session-standalone-git 2.3.0.r45.g498387b-1 (pantheon-qq)
    Session indicator for Wingpanel (without Gala dependencies)
local/wingpanel-standalone-git r637.15c0ad1-2 (pantheon-qq)
    Stylish top panel (without Gala dependencies)

Use**ame · 2021-09-15 14:26:56

Of course, I uninstalled them one by one to find the culprit. Then I booted with only

RequiredComponents=gala;gala-daemon

and then removed those as well. The result of all this was a crash screen.

pacman -Qs pantheon

local/capnet-assist 2.3.0-1 (pantheon)
    Captive Portal Assistant
local/cerbere 2.5.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Watchdog
local/contractor 0.3.5-1 (pantheon)
    A desktop-wide extension service
local/elementary-icon-theme 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Named, vector icons for elementary OS
local/elementary-wallpapers 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Collection of wallpapers for elementary OS
local/gala 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Window Manager
local/granite 6.1.1-1 (pantheon)
    Library that extends Gtk+
local/gtk-theme-elementary 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    elementary GTK theme
local/lightdm-pantheon-greeter 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Pantheon greeter for LightDM
local/pantheon-applications-menu 2.8.2-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Application Menu
local/pantheon-calculator 1.7.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Calculator
local/pantheon-calendar 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Calendar
local/pantheon-camera 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Camera Application
local/pantheon-code 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Text Editor
local/pantheon-default-settings 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    Default settings for Pantheon
local/pantheon-files 6.0.2-2 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon File Browser
local/pantheon-geoclue2-agent 1.0.5-1 (pantheon)
    Pantheon Geoclue2 Agent
local/pantheon-mail 6.1.1-1 (pantheon)
    Mail app designed for elementary OS
local/pantheon-music 5.1.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Music Player
local/pantheon-notifications 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Gtk Notifications Server
local/pantheon-onboarding 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Onboarding app for new users
local/pantheon-photos 2.7.1-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Photos Manager
local/pantheon-polkit-agent 1.0.4-1 (pantheon)
    Pantheon Polkit Agent
local/pantheon-screenshot 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Screenshot Tool
local/pantheon-session 6.0.0-2 (pantheon)
    Session settings for Pantheon
local/pantheon-settings-daemon 1.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Default settings for Pantheon
local/pantheon-shortcut-overlay 1.2.0-1 (pantheon)
    A native, OS-wide shortcut overlay
local/pantheon-sideload 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    Sideload Flatpaks on elementary OS
local/pantheon-tasks 6.0.3-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon tasks
local/pantheon-terminal 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Terminal Emulator
local/pantheon-videos 2.7.3-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Video Player
local/sound-theme-elementary 1.1.0-1 (pantheon)
    A bespoke sound for your theme
local/switchboard 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Control Center
local/switchboard-plug-a11y 2.3.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Universal Access Plug
local/switchboard-plug-about 6.0.1-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard About Plug
local/switchboard-plug-applications 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Applications Plug
local/switchboard-plug-bluetooth 2.3.6-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Bluetooth Plug
local/switchboard-plug-datetime 2.2.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Date & Time Plug
local/switchboard-plug-desktop 6.0.0-1 (pantheon-unstable)
    Switchboard Desktop Plug
local/switchboard-plug-display 2.3.1-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Display Plug
local/switchboard-plug-keyboard 2.5.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Keyboard Plug
local/switchboard-plug-mouse-touchpad 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Mouse & Touchpad Plug
local/switchboard-plug-network 2.4.1-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Network Plug
local/switchboard-plug-notifications 2.2.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Notifications Plug
local/switchboard-plug-online-accounts 6.2.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Online Accounts Plug
local/switchboard-plug-pantheon-tweaks-git r502.b59c1e2-1 (pantheon-unstable)
    Pantheon Tweaks plug for Switchboard
local/switchboard-plug-parental-controls 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Parental Controls Plug
local/switchboard-plug-power 2.6.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Power Plug
local/switchboard-plug-printers 2.1.10-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Printers Plug
local/switchboard-plug-sharing 2.1.5-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Sharing Plug
local/switchboard-plug-sound 2.2.7-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard Sound Plug
local/switchboard-plug-user-accounts 2.4.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard User Accounts Plug
local/switchboard-plug-wacom 1.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Switchboard wacom Plug
local/wingpanel 3.0.0-2 (pantheon)
    The Pantheon Top Panel
local/wingpanel-indicator-a11y 1.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Universal Access Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-bluetooth 2.1.8-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Bluetooth Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-datetime 2.3.0-1 (pantheon)
    Date & Time indicator for Wingpanel
local/wingpanel-indicator-keyboard 2.4.0-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Keyboard Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-network 2.3.0-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Network Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-nightlight 2.1.0-1 (pantheon)
    Winganel Nightlight Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-notifications 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Notifications indicator for Wingpanel
local/wingpanel-indicator-power 6.1.0-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Power Indicator
local/wingpanel-indicator-session 2.3.0-1 (pantheon)
    Session indicator for Wingpanel
local/wingpanel-indicator-sound 6.0.0-1 (pantheon)
    Wingpanel Sound Indicator

I never could find what the problem was. Also, building from aur leads to the same crash screen...

Last edited by Use**ame (2021-09-25 03:53:50)

wild wild smiff · 2021-09-26 10:59:08

I installed pantheon on arch today and i found a lot of minor issues which add up to be a huge pain. The issues are as listed:

1) Copying a screenshot of the entire screen to the clipboard makes pantheon hang for a second, but the clipboard is still empty.

2) Copying a screenshot of a specific region to the clipboard makes pantheon crash however, copying the screenshot of a window to the clipboard works fine.

3) Going to the overview and moving to a different workspace makes all the windows empty in the overview.

4) The file manager for pantheon (package name: pantheon-files); (command: io.elementary.files) gets stuck and more often than not when reading from my external 500 GB external NTFS HDD.

5) This issue is aimed more towards the arch wiki article on pantheon , it doesn't say to install an important package: pantheon-settings-daemon

6) Everytime i change the wallpaper, the whole desktop hangs and i need to go into a tty and manually logout using

sudo systemctl restart lightdm

So far, these are the only issues i've experienced with pantheon. Also, if it matters, the GTK+ theme for plank remains light even if you've chosen dark mode in the settings.

EDIT: Forgive any bad formatting

Last edited by wild wild smiff (2021-09-26 13:54:46)

quequotion · 2021-09-26 13:31:18

wild wild smiff wrote:

1) Copying a screenshot of the entire screen to the clipboard makes pantheon hang for a second, but the clipboard is still empty.

2) Copying a screenshot of a specific region to the clipboard makes pantheon crash however, copying the screenshot of a window to the clipboard works fine.

Need to do some research into the pantheon screenshot utility. A little googling shows the issues you are having have been coming up again and again as elementary OS tries to keep up with GNOME's development undermining their screenshot utility.

This outstanding issue seems relevant. Are you getting screenshots saved to files nonetheless? I think a solution is coming, but you may have to wait a while for this to be resolved and then a new version of gala released. Once the issue is resolved, you might consider jumping ahead by replacing the gala package with gala-git from the AUR, but that will also expose you to potentially unstable bleeding-edge development.

An alternative is to use gnome-screenshot instead. The issues with the pantheon-screenshot utility seem to be largely that it is a third-party front end not keeping up with GNOME's back end. That could be compounded by the fact that Archlinux is shipping a newer version of GNOME's software than elementary OS is developing against (as their base is Ubuntu LTS).

3) Going to the overview and moving to a different workspace makes all the windows empty in the overview.
4) The file manager for pantheon (package name: pantheon-files); (command: io.elementary.files) gets stuck and more often than not when reading from my external 500 GB external NTFS HDD.

Those sound like possibly upstream issues, especially the latter. You should check gala's github issues to see if you can't find the former and file it if you can't, and then check files' github issues about the latter. I feel like I've heard that one before (files slowing down or freezing when reading either external or network drives).

5) This issue is aimed more towards the arch wiki article on pantheon , it doesn't say to install an important package: pantheon-settings-daemon

I have added that to the page. I am not entirely sure what purpose this settings daemon serves; most of the settings for pantheon are handled by gnome-settings-daemon. It appears to have its own account services plugin, which is some component of the new dark theme preference system, and possibly more.

theme for plank remains light even if you've chosen dark mode in the settings.

[CTRL]+[RightClick] on any part of plank to get its menu, then select "Preferences" to get a dialog to set Plank's theme, etc. I don't know if it is intended that Plank will respect GTK settings or not, but dark mode preference is kind of a mess across the board (much drama in the blogosphere, reddit, and elsewhere has ensued over GNOME's decision to change how theme preferences work).

wild wild smiff · 2021-09-26 13:59:13

quequotion wrote:

have added that to the page. I am not entirely sure what purpose this settings daemon serves; most of the settings for pantheon are handled by gnome-settings-daemon. It appears to have its own account services plugin, which is some component of the new dark theme preference system, and possibly more.

Well, the switchboard app (pantheon's settings app) crashes at least when you try to access the "Desktop" menu however installing pantheon-settings-daemon rectified it.

Manix · 2021-11-11 16:33:39

Hello, I installed the "pantheon" package and add the lines via .xinitrc to launch this one.
everything works fine, however I don't have right-click access on the desktop and I have the unresponsive wingpanel problem.
like here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Panthe … responsive
I would like to have more detail to make it work.
thank you
ps: the AUR package does not work with me.

Use**ame · 2021-11-16 03:00:44

I managed to get back into Pantheon, but had to reinstall the system...

However, I noticed that running the environment through .xinitrc can affect some windows. For example, any open window will be displayed on the left instead of in the center of the screen. The gpg password window cannot be moved at all... Running the environment with DM does not have this problem. I wonder why? In the .xinitrc:

export XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11
export GDK_BACKEND=x11
exec gnome-session --builtin --session=pantheon

io.elementary.wingpanel &
plank &
exec gala

I also noticed that copying files larger than 500 MB from removable media causes pantheon-files to crash. This is a problem I'm still investigating.

Otherwise, there are positives: app autostart, custom keyboard shortcuts, brightness control, volume control, mouse tile mode finally work.

You can also disable unnecessary gsd services that are in /usr/lib/ if you do not need them:

gsd-a11y-settings
gsd-backlight-helper
gsd-color
gsd-datetime
gsd-housekeeping
gsd-keyboard
gsd-media-keys
gsd-power
gsd-printer
gsd-print-notifications
gsd-rfkill
gsd-screensaver-proxy
gsd-sharing
gsd-smartcard
gsd-sound
gsd-usb-protection
gsd-wacom
gsd-wacom-oled-helper
gsd-wwan
gsd-xsettings

By simply renaming, for example, gsd-a11y-settings to gsd-a11y-settings.bac:

mv /usr/lib/gsd-a11y-settings{,.bac}

quequotion · 2021-11-22 12:51:58

Manix wrote:

Hello, I installed the "pantheon" package

There is no "pantheon" package. Did you install the entire pantheon group from the [community] repository?

I don't have right-click access on the desktop

I don't think Gala has a desktop menu. Edit: Gala does have a menu. I have trouble with it appearing in locations other than where I clicked. Could that be happening in your case?

I have the unresponsive wingpanel problem. like here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Panthe … responsive

Note: the issue described in that section of the wiki is not the whole wingpanel being unresponsive, only the menu items of the session indicator (Lock, Log Out..., Shut Down..., etc). If your whole panel is unresponsive, that is a different issue.

the AUR package does not work with me.

Are you referring to wingpanel-indicator-session-standalone-git? Note that, as stated in that section of the wiki, this package is only intended for users who are using an alternative window manager (ie, anything other than Gala). If you have not gone out of your way to install a different window manager, then you are using Gala and do not need this package (and your session indicator should be working; maybe you have an entirely different problem).

If you are sure you need this, and are having trouble building the package, that could be because it depends on libwingpanel.so (provided by wingpanel-git from [AUR]) rather than libwingpanel-2.0.so (provided by wingpanel from [community]). I have amended the pinned comment on its AUR page with instructions for how to build it.

Last edited by quequotion (2021-11-23 01:37:45)

robg · 2022-04-03 18:14:09

wild wild smiff wrote:

3) Going to the overview and moving to a different workspace makes all the windows empty in the overview.

I am facing this problem on a fresh install on Arch + Pantheon. As per the advice of quequotion, a quick search of the gala issue tracker reveals that the problem is due to an incompatibility with the latest version of Mutter. Since Elementary is build on Ubuntu LTS, this should be fixed with the upcoming 22.04-based update.

Since quequotion does not seem to experience this problem, may I ask what window manager (and version) you are using?

quequotion · 2022-04-05 06:47:58

robg wrote:

may I ask what window manager (and version) you are using?

I'll have to get back to you about the versions, but most of the time I am using compiz or openbox instead of Gala.

robg · 2022-04-06 13:26:05

Thank you for your reply (and the link to your interesting YouTube channel).

I guess I will stick with Gala for the moment, whose workflow I enjoy despite its flaws. And hopefully said flaws will be ironed out once Elementary moves to Ubuntu 22.04.

12345 · 2022-08-21 13:31:03

I installed pantheon according to the documentation, then installed nightlight packages:

sudo pacman -S switchboard-plug-display wingpanel-indicator-nightlight

I activated nightlight in the settings, after which an indicator appeared in the panel, but the display colors do not change... I'm using an Intel graphics card (Ivy Bridge). I don't even know how to diagnose this problem. I ask for your help!

_____

Hmm, I seem to have solved this problem by installing the colord package.

Last edited by 12345 (2022-08-23 11:35:54)

jei0ua4sxra · 2023-07-08 11:20:01

Managed to use the pantheon for about a week. Then an update came and broke the dynamic transparency of the top panel, added tearing, broke the keyboard layout switch. Now a new update has arrived and now the pantheon gives the error "Oh no! Something has gone wrong."

I've tried finding the culprit in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/pantheon.session by removing them from the RequiredComponents line, but that doesn't work.

I've tried rolling back the gala package and gnome-session, but that doesn't work either.

I really want to get a normally working environment, please help me!

dedal.qq · 2023-07-08 21:31:54

jei0ua4sxra wrote:

Managed to use the pantheon for about a week. Then an update came and broke the dynamic transparency of the top panel, added tearing, broke the keyboard layout switch. Now a new update has arrived and now the pantheon gives the error "Oh no! Something has gone wrong."
I've tried finding the culprit in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/pantheon.session by removing them from the RequiredComponents line, but that doesn't work.
I've tried rolling back the gala package and gnome-session, but that doesn't work either.
I really want to get a normally working environment, please help me!

I think you talking about this: https://github.com/elementary/gala/issues/1712
You can try install gala from AUR for get last version with fix. It helped me

jei0ua4sxra · 2023-07-08 23:20:58

Thanks for answering! I was unable to build gala-git due to dependencies, but I marked the gala package as deprecated. Hope it gets updated soon.

jei0ua4sxra · 2023-07-13 06:34:29

Built 7.1.1, but it did not give any results. I could make a mistake somewhere, because I collected for the first time. Here is the build order:

1) Cloned PKGBUILD and SRCINFO

git clone https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/gala.git && gala/

2) In SRCINFO replaced

        pkgver = 7.1.0
	pkgrel = 1
	source = git+https://github.com/elementary/gala.git#tag=af38417d18a64412bf4154f202087be3574fd177

on

	pkgver = 7.1.1
	pkgrel = 0
	source = git+https://github.com/elementary/gala.git#tag=451aea9495c537ac40cd78b4c12f32cbdb45e9ef

3) In PKGBUILD replaced

pkgver=7.1.0
pkgrel=1
_tag=af38417d18a64412bf4154f202087be3574fd177

on

pkgver=7.1.1
pkgrel=0
_tag=451aea9495c537ac40cd78b4c12f32cbdb45e9ef

4) Built and installed

makepkg -si

Then I completely updated the system and rebooted. But I still see a crashing screen...

jei0ua4sxra · 2023-07-13 12:36:13

Built gala-git-7.1.1.r3.d0a21e2f-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst in a clean chroot, but that doesn't work either. Judging by the posts in this thread, I'm not the only one facing problems with gala. This is a very unstable package...

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