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#1 2021-12-14 09:38:42
- Humar
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vdpau(info) on wayland possible?
Hello!
To not make this an XY Problem: When I try to stream while gaming, I have to use i3 instead of sway because the fps/stutters are way worse on wayland than on X.
It's the only time I boot into X instead of wayland and I would like to change that, because I don't feel like configuring two environments.
So I have an AMD RX 6700XT, had a look at: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardwa … celeration and still am not sure if I can have vdpau on wayland (sway)
On wayland (sway):
humar:~# vdpauinfo
display: :0 screen: 0
Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Error creating VDPAU device: 1No idea why it tries to go to an nvidia driver. I never had an nvidia gpu and am using mesa since 10 years 
On X:
humar:~# vdpauinfo
display: :0 screen: 0
API version: 1
Information string: G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0
Video surface:
name width height types
-------------------------------------------
420 16384 16384 NV12 YV12
422 16384 16384 UYVY YUYV
444 16384 16384 Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8
420_16 16384 16384
422_16 16384 16384
444_16 16384 16384
Decoder capabilities:
name level macbs width height
----------------------------------------------------
MPEG1 --- not supported ---
MPEG2_SIMPLE 3 78336 4096 4906
MPEG2_MAIN 3 78336 4096 4906
H264_BASELINE 52 78336 4096 4906
H264_MAIN 52 78336 4096 4906
H264_HIGH 52 78336 4096 4906
VC1_SIMPLE 1 78336 4096 4906
VC1_MAIN 2 78336 4096 4906
VC1_ADVANCED 4 78336 4096 4906
MPEG4_PART2_SP 3 78336 4096 4906
MPEG4_PART2_ASP 5 78336 4096 4906
DIVX4_QMOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX4_MOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX4_HOME_THEATER --- not supported ---
DIVX4_HD_1080P --- not supported ---
DIVX5_QMOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX5_MOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX5_HOME_THEATER --- not supported ---
DIVX5_HD_1080P --- not supported ---
H264_CONSTRAINED_BASELINE 0 78336 4096 4906
H264_EXTENDED --- not supported ---
H264_PROGRESSIVE_HIGH --- not supported ---
H264_CONSTRAINED_HIGH --- not supported ---
H264_HIGH_444_PREDICTIVE --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_0 --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_1 --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_2 --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_3 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN 186 139264 8192 4352
HEVC_MAIN_10 186 139264 8192 4352
HEVC_MAIN_STILL --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_12 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444_10 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444_12 --- not supported ---
Output surface:
name width height nat types
----------------------------------------------------
B8G8R8A8 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
R8G8B8A8 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
R10G10B10A2 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
B10G10R10A2 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
Bitmap surface:
name width height
------------------------------
B8G8R8A8 16384 16384
R8G8B8A8 16384 16384
R10G10B10A2 16384 16384
B10G10R10A2 16384 16384
A8 16384 16384
Video mixer:
feature name sup
------------------------------------
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL y
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL_SPATIAL -
INVERSE_TELECINE -
NOISE_REDUCTION y
SHARPNESS y
LUMA_KEY y
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L1 y
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L2 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L3 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L4 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L5 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L6 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L7 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L8 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L9 -
parameter name sup min max
-----------------------------------------------------
VIDEO_SURFACE_WIDTH y 48 4096
VIDEO_SURFACE_HEIGHT y 48 4096
CHROMA_TYPE y
LAYERS y 0 4
attribute name sup min max
-----------------------------------------------------
BACKGROUND_COLOR y
CSC_MATRIX y
NOISE_REDUCTION_LEVEL y 0.00 1.00
SHARPNESS_LEVEL y -1.00 1.00
LUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA y
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#2 2021-12-14 13:05:00
- Lone_Wolf
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Re: vdpau(info) on wayland possible?
VDPAU is old and never functioned well on linux (even with nvidia cards) .
Have you tried to remove mesa-vdpau to verify it's not the cause of the issue ?
What application are you using to stream ?
Added: does the stutter occur on 'native' wayland games , xwayland games or both ?
Last edited by Lone_Wolf (2021-12-14 13:06:58)
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#3 2021-12-14 18:31:49
- Humar
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Re: vdpau(info) on wayland possible?
Hello and thanks for providing insightful info and questions!
Uhm, I haven't tried to remove mesa-vdpau, no. I thought it was necessary and wasn't aware that I might be better off without it.
I am using OBS studio.
Apart from my Radeon RX 6700 XT the rest of this machine is a monster too, but I was expecting way better results. (Ryzen 9 5950x, 64GB Ram etc. and no it's not only for gaming, it's my machine for developing and bringing food on the table)
It occurs in any game I play. Let's take e.g. Cyberpunk 2077, it's of course running through proton and afaik that's always xwayland (correct me if wrong). On Sway I have 30fps on i3 I get up to 60fps. Same settings, just i3 vs. sway.
Apart from that - but this is unrelated to above error, I just want to mention it - I had an old Radeon RX 470 powering even this new computer until a few weeks back. And when I played on sway AND streamed, even games like e.g. Team Fortress 2, sometimes the screen would freeze, the GPU fans would turn to max for a few seconds, then go back to normal, and then the whole system would stay completely unresponsive and only a hard reset (power off) would help. Upon startup the GPU would then spin up the fans to max again for a second or so, and then everything would work normally.
This has never happened when streaming on X AND it has never happened when "just gaming" on sway. Just when I play and stream on sway. I never got to debug that either and maybe it's gone with the new GPU (or new mesa, I don't even know where to start debugging this)
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#4 2021-12-14 19:13:36
- Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: vdpau(info) on wayland possible?
From my GNOME Wayland desktop with a Cezanne iGPU:
$ VDPAU_DRIVER=radeonsi vdpauinfo
display: :0 screen: 0
API version: 1
Information string: G3DVL VDPAU Driver Shared Library version 1.0
Video surface:
name width height types
-------------------------------------------
420 16384 16384 NV12 YV12
422 16384 16384 UYVY YUYV
444 16384 16384 Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8
420_16 16384 16384
422_16 16384 16384
444_16 16384 16384
Decoder capabilities:
name level macbs width height
----------------------------------------------------
MPEG1 --- not supported ---
MPEG2_SIMPLE 3 78336 4096 4906
MPEG2_MAIN 3 78336 4096 4906
H264_BASELINE 52 78336 4096 4906
H264_MAIN 52 78336 4096 4906
H264_HIGH 52 78336 4096 4906
VC1_SIMPLE 1 78336 4096 4906
VC1_MAIN 2 78336 4096 4906
VC1_ADVANCED 4 78336 4096 4906
MPEG4_PART2_SP 3 78336 4096 4906
MPEG4_PART2_ASP 5 78336 4096 4906
DIVX4_QMOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX4_MOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX4_HOME_THEATER --- not supported ---
DIVX4_HD_1080P --- not supported ---
DIVX5_QMOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX5_MOBILE --- not supported ---
DIVX5_HOME_THEATER --- not supported ---
DIVX5_HD_1080P --- not supported ---
H264_CONSTRAINED_BASELINE 0 78336 4096 4906
H264_EXTENDED --- not supported ---
H264_PROGRESSIVE_HIGH --- not supported ---
H264_CONSTRAINED_HIGH --- not supported ---
H264_HIGH_444_PREDICTIVE --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_0 --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_1 --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_2 --- not supported ---
VP9_PROFILE_3 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN 186 139264 8192 4352
HEVC_MAIN_10 186 139264 8192 4352
HEVC_MAIN_STILL --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_12 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444_10 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444_12 --- not supported ---
Output surface:
name width height nat types
----------------------------------------------------
B8G8R8A8 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
R8G8B8A8 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
R10G10B10A2 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
B10G10R10A2 16384 16384 y NV12 YV12 UYVY YUYV Y8U8V8A8 V8U8Y8A8 P010 P016 A8I8 I8A8
Bitmap surface:
name width height
------------------------------
B8G8R8A8 16384 16384
R8G8B8A8 16384 16384
R10G10B10A2 16384 16384
B10G10R10A2 16384 16384
A8 16384 16384
Video mixer:
feature name sup
------------------------------------
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL y
DEINTERLACE_TEMPORAL_SPATIAL -
INVERSE_TELECINE -
NOISE_REDUCTION y
SHARPNESS y
LUMA_KEY y
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L1 y
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L2 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L3 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L4 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L5 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L6 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L7 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L8 -
HIGH QUALITY SCALING - L9 -
parameter name sup min max
-----------------------------------------------------
VIDEO_SURFACE_WIDTH y 48 4096
VIDEO_SURFACE_HEIGHT y 48 4096
CHROMA_TYPE y
LAYERS y 0 4
attribute name sup min max
-----------------------------------------------------
BACKGROUND_COLOR y
CSC_MATRIX y
NOISE_REDUCTION_LEVEL y 0.00 1.00
SHARPNESS_LEVEL y -1.00 1.00
LUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA y
LUMA_KEY_MAX_LUMA y
$See also https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Hardwa … figuration & https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Enviro … _variables
Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2021-12-14 19:15:36)
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#5 2021-12-14 19:16:55
- afader
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Re: vdpau(info) on wayland possible?
You don't want mesa-vdpau.
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#6 2021-12-28 19:27:15
- Humar
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Re: vdpau(info) on wayland possible?
Thanks guys, I've uninstalled mesa-vdpau and also amdvlk and all my problems are gone.
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