Streamlined System without Gnome or KDE

Kenetixx · 2006-10-15 05:29:12

Is it possible to build a system with out using any programs that depend on Gnome or KDE basically wirh out the need to install KDE or Gnome, yet still be fully functinal with everyday desktop use"?

I might give it a try tonight and see how it goes
Anyone else tried it?

twiistedkaos · 2006-10-15 06:16:31

Erm, try Openbox, Fluxbox or othern DE's / WM's. You'll still need GTk to run GTK apps, or QT to run QT apps also.

Kenetixx · 2006-10-15 06:23:46

yeah i understand you still need GTK and the like but no gnome or KDE apps to be used, like file management or Music or MOvies players or anythig KDE or Gnome related, that is for everyday use

ingvildr · 2006-10-15 07:29:33

satanix wrote:

yeah i understand you still need GTK and the like but no gnome or KDE apps to be used, like file management or Music or MOvies players or anythig KDE or Gnome related, that is for everyday use

just start looking around gnomefiles.org for apps that dont depend on a whole lot like pcmanfm for a file manager, kazehakase for web browser, sonata for music etc etc.

drakosha · 2006-10-15 08:19:38

There's also xfce

iphitus · 2006-10-15 09:28:10

you'd be silly to.

you're cutting off yourself from some of the best software available on Linux. Whatever silly speed or ram saving you make, will not make up for the wasted time finding and installing programs that simply do not accomplish the task as well as the ones you're avoiding.

James

detto · 2006-10-15 09:39:43

iphitus wrote:

you're cutting off yourself from some of the best software available on Linux. Whatever silly speed or ram saving you make, will not make up for the wasted time finding and installing programs that simply do not accomplish the task as well as the ones you're avoiding.

I can acknowledge this. Last week i scratched my head and had too much time on my hands. I installed Openbox as my wm and small apps that fit me pretty much. file manager was pcmanfm, music player ncmpc, icq still gaim, and so on....
In the end (that was on same day) i missed something. Dont know exactly what it was, but now i guess it's the application quality and leaving some apps (nautilus and epiphany for example) which i found to be very usable and easy at same time.
For me that was enough reason to smash it up, backup my home dir, and start new arch install with gnome and for me the project wm's is finished. the only thing i might try in future would be KDE4 but thats another story

Well, but probably the best would be to test it out for yourself. Some are of course pretty happy with small lean but somehow functional system, and because of this i would say give it a go.
as mentioned filemanager for example pcmanfm, music player a mpd client like ncmpc or sonata.

good luck,

cheers,
detto

Kenetixx · 2006-10-15 10:42:15

iphitus wrote:

you'd be silly to.
you're cutting off yourself from some of the best software available on Linux. Whatever silly speed or ram saving you make, will not make up for the wasted time finding and installing programs that simply do not accomplish the task as well as the ones you're avoiding.
James

I know this i just want to try it on a spare box i just aquired which is a p3 1ghz with 256 meg of ram and a 10 gig hdd just something to waste time on

augustob · 2006-10-15 11:14:30

I do this!! My setup is GTK based without any Gnome or KDE libs. I only have QT installed when I need to use Skype.

WM: Openbox
Term: Urxvtd + Urxvtcs
Launcher: Gmrun (although I've been looking for something better)
File management: Thunar (pulls some XFCE deps, but nothing tragic)
Image viewing/editing: Mirage/Gimp
Text editing: Gvim
Calculator: Galculator
Browser: Firefox
Mail: Thunderbird (didn't like some of Sylpheed's UI quirks, you might be fine)
Burning: Graveman
IM: Gaim
DVD: Ogle
Audio: MPD + Sonata
Video: Mplayer
Ipod: Gtkpod
Video edit: Avidemux2
Subtitles editing: Gaupol
Filesharing: Transmission, Amule and Linuxdcpp
Cdripping: You could use Asunder, I use abcde

And some others. Ask me if you're curious about which program I use for a specific function. I work as a programmer, and this setup fits me perfectly.

Then again, someone that feels that a taskbar, pager or anything like that is "natural" would feel incredibly out of place using my setup. I rarely even see Openbox's menu anymore, from the keybinds/gmrun I use.

Also, iphitus, unless you count my alcohol-induced Pythonesque silly walk, I tend to be un-silly to a fault.

icrave · 2006-10-15 12:00:32

Yes, its possible.

If you dont like XFCE deps, install pcmanfm instead thunar .

Romashka · 2006-10-15 12:27:06

Here is my list: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=167346#167346
(It's slightly outdated though).

stonecrest · 2006-10-15 16:37:48

iphitus wrote:

you'd be silly to.
you're cutting off yourself from some of the best software available on Linux. Whatever silly speed or ram saving you make, will not make up for the wasted time finding and installing programs that simply do not accomplish the task as well as the ones you're avoiding.
James

So gnome and kde apps, by virtue of using gnome and kde libs, are automatically better than their counterparts that don't depend on these libs? Talk about flamebait..

I say, to each their own. If some people feel more productive without using gnome/kde, then great. If others feel differently, so be it. The only silliness is making such a generalization about applications.

augustob · 2006-10-15 20:10:23

stonecrest wrote:

So gnome and kde apps, by virtue of using gnome and kde libs, are automatically better than their counterparts that don't depend on these libs?

As much as I disagree with ipithus argument I can't see how you're getting that from what he said. He never implied a causal relationship between using Gnome/KDE libs to being a great app, he merely stated that the best software in Linux do use those libraries.

I'd like to hear what are those apps, though. The only app I would rather not use for its big-DE counterpart is Graveman for K3B.

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