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#1 2022-01-18 12:49:28

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Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

when I updated to 5.16 (today is 5.16.1) it got stuck at "Loading initial ramdisk" without any journalctl log

http://ix.io/3MDs :

tail -n 500 /var/log/pacman.log

http://ix.io/3MDt (I boot 5.16 at 11:43):

journalctl --since 11:00

and then I switched from bootloader to systemd, the tty give me some message: http://ix.io/3MDq

I can boot Ok when rolling back to 5.15.13.

for the question from: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 9#p2016399

do you have earlier messages than that?

I turned on kernel debug:
http://ix.io/3MFf
http://ix.io/3MFg
http://ix.io/3MFh

sorry I don't know how to catch these log, after chroot, there are no /var/log/dmesg and nothing in journalctl about that boot


the LTS kernel still boots fine?

if you mean the 5.15.13, yes I can boot fine with it.

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#2 2022-01-18 15:16:27

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

isaac_le wrote:

Those links are full of non-ASCII characters, for me at least.

But anyway do you have AMD graphics? See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=273100

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#3 2022-01-18 15:40:28

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

They're images - the error is somewhere on the SATA.
Usually I'd say "cable", but that doesn't fit the kernel update condition.

if you mean the 5.15.13

No, the lts kernel: https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux-lts/
(as I assume "rolling back" means a complete downgrade and that doesn't tell us much about the culprit)

Try passing "libata.force=noncq" to the kernel (it gets disabled for "excessive errors" but maybe that's toolate™"
Also check the dmesg/journal w/ a "good" kernel to see whether the drive produces errors there as well (and they're just handled more gracefully)

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#4 2022-01-19 10:04:48

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

But anyway do you have AMD graphics?

No, i'm using intel nuc n3700


Try passing "libata.force=noncq" to the kernel

http://ix.io/3MKn
http://ix.io/3MKo
-----
for tls:

`tail -n 500 /var/log/pacman.log`: http://ix.io/3MKq
Stuck with normal boot: http://ix.io/3MKp

Boot success full with kernel parameter `debug`:
- `journalctl -b` (3MB): http://sprunge.us/Jry1EV
- `dmesg`: http://ix.io/3MKr

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#5 2022-01-19 13:40:39

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

So the LTS blocks (at pretty much the same point as the main kernel) but boots w/ the debug parameter???

Does the main kernel (now) boot w/ "debug"?
Do they maybe both boot w/o?
Race condition? Loose connection? Temperature?

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#6 2022-01-19 14:57:02

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

So the LTS blocks (at pretty much the same point as the main kernel) but boots w/ the debug parameter???

Yes, that's it.

Does the main kernel (now) boot w/ "debug"?
Do they maybe both boot w/o?

Sadly no. sad

I disassembled my PC and assembled them back but not help, really don't know what happened.
I think I will stick with to 5.15 for now
And may be the future kernel will be better with my hardware.

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#7 2022-01-19 15:02:22

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

If you replace "debug" w/ "boot_delay=100" (this delays every boot message by 100ms), do you still get the error?

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#8 2022-01-19 15:43:04

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

boot_delay=100

TLS: it works. boot time is about 3 mins.
- `dmesg` http://sprunge.us/2zTBMM
- `journalctl -b` http://sprunge.us/IfKxk0


Main kernel: not working

Last edited by isaac_le (2022-01-19 15:43:59)

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#9 2022-01-19 20:34:23

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

The links below are for a kernel built from the mid point of 5.15 to 5.16 is it good or bad?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l67bHh … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r7513.g2219b0ceefe8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EHW_gc … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r7513.g2219b0ceefe8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#10 2022-01-19 21:06:22

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

In the debug enabled boot, the µcode is patched right before the SSD is added, in the delayed boot right after.
Because of the proximity and the raciness and on a hunch: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Microc … ly_loading

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#11 2022-01-20 05:20:58

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

The links below are for a kernel built from the mid point of 5.15 to 5.16 is it good or bad?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l67bHh … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r7513.g2219b0ceefe8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EHW_gc … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r7513.g2219b0ceefe8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

not working, stuck right after boot menu selection. the message same as: http://ix.io/3MFg

seth wrote:

In the debug enabled boot, the µcode is patched right before the SSD is added, in the delayed boot right after.
Because of the proximity and the raciness and on a hunch: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Microc … ly_loading

For TLS: I just notice that if I wait at the boot menu > 3s, it will boot successfully: w/ or w/o Microcode, w/o boot_dealy, w/o debug.

For 5.16 with Microcode: not working even waiting at the boot menu

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#12 2022-01-20 05:47:26

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

Next bisection step
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i9BVFk … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dfz0UP … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#13 2022-01-20 07:11:57

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

Next bisection step
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i9BVFk … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dfz0UP … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

not working

# pacman -U linux-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst linux-headers-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst 
loading packages...
warning: downgrading package linux (5.15.r7513.g2219b0ceefe8-1 => 5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1)
warning: downgrading package linux-headers (5.16.1.arch1-1 => 5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1)
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Packages (2) linux-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1  linux-headers-5.15.r4566.gfc02cb2b37fe-1

Total Installed Size:  299.24 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:       -1.21 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
(2/2) checking keys in keyring                                    [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking package integrity                                  [####################################] 100%
(2/2) loading package files                                       [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking for file conflicts                                 [####################################] 100%
(2/2) checking available disk space                               [####################################] 100%
:: Running pre-transaction hooks...
(1/2) Removing linux initcpios...
(2/2) Remove DKMS modules
:: Processing package changes...
(1/2) downgrading linux                                           [####################################] 100%
(2/2) downgrading linux-headers                                   [####################################] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/4) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/4) Updating module dependencies...
(3/4) Install DKMS modules
==> dkms install --no-depmod r8168/8.049.02 -k 5.15.0-1-04566-gfc02cb2b37fe
==> depmod 5.15.0-1-04566-gfc02cb2b37fe
(4/4) Updating linux initcpios...
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'default'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux.img
==> Starting build: 5.15.0-1-04566-gfc02cb2b37fe
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: xhci_pci
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [fsck]
Decompress:  1/23 files. Current: ...xhci-pci.ko.zst : 0 B...    ==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating zstd-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux.img
==> Image generation successful
==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'fallback'
  -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -c /etc/mkinitcpio.conf -g /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img -S autodetect
==> Starting build: 5.15.0-1-04566-gfc02cb2b37fe
  -> Running build hook: [base]
  -> Running build hook: [udev]
  -> Running build hook: [modconf]
  -> Running build hook: [block]
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: aic94xx
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: wd719x
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: xhci_pci
  -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
  -> Running build hook: [fsck]
Decompress: 548/626 files. Current: ...nel/ext4.ko.zst : 384 KiB...    ==> Generating module dependencies
==> Creating zstd-compressed initcpio image: /boot/initramfs-linux-fallback.img
==> Image generation successful

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#14 2022-01-20 08:03:28

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

Bisecting: 2251 revisions left to test after this (roughly 11 steps)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YddxXS … sp=sharing linux-5.15rc7.r2443.gb7b98f868987-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZT-uBw … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15rc7.r2443.gb7b98f868987-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#15 2022-01-20 08:30:50

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

Bisecting: 2251 revisions left to test after this (roughly 11 steps)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YddxXS … sp=sharing linux-5.15rc7.r2443.gb7b98f868987-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZT-uBw … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15rc7.r2443.gb7b98f868987-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

it works!

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#16 2022-01-20 16:26:01

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

git bisect good
Bisecting: 1127 revisions left to test after this (roughly 10 steps)
[6e5772c8d9cf0a77ba4d6fd34fd4126fb66c9983] Merge tag 'x86_cc_for_v5.16_rc1' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mMxUg … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r1124.g6e5772c8d9cf-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K8YmhU … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r1124.g6e5772c8d9cf-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#17 2022-01-20 17:49:57

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

git bisect good
Bisecting: 1127 revisions left to test after this (roughly 10 steps)
[6e5772c8d9cf0a77ba4d6fd34fd4126fb66c9983] Merge tag 'x86_cc_for_v5.16_rc1' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mMxUg … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r1124.g6e5772c8d9cf-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K8YmhU … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r1124.g6e5772c8d9cf-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

not working.

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#18 2022-01-20 18:12:33

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

git bisect bad
Bisecting: 564 revisions left to test after this (roughly 9 steps)
[19901165d90fdca1e57c9baa0d5b4c63d15c476a] Merge tag 'for-5.16/inode-sync-2021-10-29' of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x9ZwO1 … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r559.g19901165d90f-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s3DwAb … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r559.g19901165d90f-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#19 2022-01-21 03:10:24

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

git bisect bad
Bisecting: 564 revisions left to test after this (roughly 9 steps)
[19901165d90fdca1e57c9baa0d5b4c63d15c476a] Merge tag 'for-5.16/inode-sync-2021-10-29' of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x9ZwO1 … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r559.g19901165d90f-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s3DwAb … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r559.g19901165d90f-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

not working.

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#20 2022-01-21 15:39:49

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

git bisect bad
Bisecting: 281 revisions left to test after this (roughly 8 steps)
[33c8846c814c1c27c6e33af005042d15061f948b] Merge tag 'for-5.16/block-2021-10-29' of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14vtP9V … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r277.g33c8846c814c-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aNrDEm … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r277.g33c8846c814c-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#21 2022-01-21 16:54:35

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

git bisect bad
Bisecting: 281 revisions left to test after this (roughly 8 steps)
[33c8846c814c1c27c6e33af005042d15061f948b] Merge tag 'for-5.16/block-2021-10-29' of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14vtP9V … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r277.g33c8846c814c-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aNrDEm … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r277.g33c8846c814c-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

it works.

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#22 2022-01-21 17:13:33

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

git bisect good
Bisecting: 161 revisions left to test after this (roughly 7 steps)
[643a7234e0960cf63f1a51a15cfc969fafcbabad] Merge tag 'for-5.16/drivers-2021-10-29' of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19dLdiS … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r397.g643a7234e096-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zsvn8c … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r397.g643a7234e096-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#23 2022-01-22 05:14:18

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

git bisect good
Bisecting: 161 revisions left to test after this (roughly 7 steps)
[643a7234e0960cf63f1a51a15cfc969fafcbabad] Merge tag 'for-5.16/drivers-2021-10-29' of git://git.kernel.dk/linux-block
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19dLdiS … sp=sharing linux-5.15.r397.g643a7234e096-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zsvn8c … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15.r397.g643a7234e096-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

It works.

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#24 2022-01-22 05:32:28

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

git bisect good
Bisecting: 80 revisions left to test after this (roughly 6 steps)
[88459b50b42a4bd58e528006663afabd0b8652f2] io_uring: simplify io_file_supports_nowait()
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18pt3mF … sp=sharing linux-5.15rc6.r189.g88459b50b42a-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13gc8-Q … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15rc6.r189.g88459b50b42a-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

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#25 2022-01-22 05:55:29

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Re: Can not boot after update to linux 5.16

loqs wrote:

git bisect good
Bisecting: 80 revisions left to test after this (roughly 6 steps)
[88459b50b42a4bd58e528006663afabd0b8652f2] io_uring: simplify io_file_supports_nowait()
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18pt3mF … sp=sharing linux-5.15rc6.r189.g88459b50b42a-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13gc8-Q … sp=sharing linux-headers-5.15rc6.r189.g88459b50b42a-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

it works.

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