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#1 2006-10-16 14:39:39

Alphalutra1
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Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

Wow!  This is very very strange.  I have my arch linux install in vmware which was running perfectly off the base install and a pacman -Syu --ignore kernel26 and without replacing mkinitrd.  So I decide to take the leap of faith and go to the next kernel and use mkinitcpio.

On the first reboot, the boot hangs at loading udev events.  On the second reboot, the same thing happens.  So I go to the kernel26-fallback image, and it gets a kernel panic so I can't even boot   :cry:   I reboot back into the normal kernel26.img and it boots, gets past all of the udev stuff  tongue , then when it says starting network, the entire thing crashes and the system does a hard reboot and it has exibited the same behavior ever since.   :evil:

Any ideas on how to get this system bootable?

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#2 2006-10-16 17:46:12

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

I've had similar problems.

try adding noapic to the bootline so it looks similar to this :

kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/hda2 ro noapic

If that doesn't solve it, also add acpi=off .


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#3 2006-10-16 22:58:42

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

It doesn't work  sad   I did just as you said above,  and it now hangs on loading udev uevents.

Any other ideas?

I appreciate the help

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#4 2006-10-16 23:23:23

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

Hangs for how long?  Do you happen to know what controller card you have? piix?

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#5 2006-10-16 23:24:30

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

Okay, I tried to boot the system from the install cd and used

arch root=/dev/sda3 noinitrd ro

and the system booted.  However, the network config failed and couldn't find my ethernet card (eth0) which worked before the install of the new kernel and mkinitcpio.  Also, it said that it couldn't load my keyboard map.  It still is a no go trying to boot it without the cd though.  Also, my mouse doesn't work in xorg anymore if I boot it from the cd  :?   Things just aren't going my way right now  :cry:

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#6 2006-10-17 17:27:52

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

I have also exactly this problem ...

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#7 2006-10-17 20:56:06

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

alphalutra, stibi try booting with the ftp iso found here 
http://www.archlinux.org/~tpowa/newisos … 5-i686.iso
by using noinitrd AND noapic i was able to boot my arch vmware with network.

After running pacman -Syu and a bit of testing i've changed my kernel line to this :
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/hda2 ro noinitrd noapic


@phrakture :
yes, it's listed as piix .
Keep in mind this is the vmware virtual ide chipset (Vmware workstation 5.5.2.29772 ) . The problem may not appear on a physical piix chipset


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#8 2006-10-17 21:42:49

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

phrakture wrote:

Hangs for how long?  Do you happen to know what controller card you have? piix?

It hangs until the system shuts down after several minutes(no clue why it shuts down)  I tried booting from the base cd adding the noapic line, but I still have the problem of my network card not being detected and it not being able to load my keyboard map  :evil: 

With the ftp iso running arch root=/dev/sda3 noinitrd ro noapic, I get a nice little kernel panic as shown with the attached image  :evil:
kernelpanicdg8.th.png

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#9 2006-10-17 21:47:53

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

@Alphalutra1, stibi

Do you have a coreduo or  core2duo prozessor?


Have you tried to turn it off and on again?

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#10 2006-10-17 22:36:26

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

No, I have a pentium 3.4 GHz HT processor

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#11 2006-10-18 09:08:08

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

Alphalutra1 wrote:

With the ftp iso running arch root=/dev/sda3 noinitrd ro noapic, I get a nice little kernel panic as shown with the attached image  :evil:
kernelpanicdg8.th.png

Alphalutra1

Yep, that's the kernel panic it gives.

I've noted one difference between my vm setup and yours :
you are using the vmware scsi drive that vmware gives as default when you choose other linux in making it.
I think it's buslogic or lsilogic .

I removed the scsi drive and replaced it with a standard ide drive after creating but before installing arch in the vm.

the noapic noinitrd combination makes my setup with the vmware ide driver bootable.


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#12 2006-10-18 20:58:57

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

I tried another install with the ide drive, and I still have the exact same problems  :?   Any other ideas, because this is getting really annoying(why won't the stupid school allow linux  :twisted: )

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#13 2006-10-18 22:06:01

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

Well, i have been planning to make some vmware images for submitting as a virtual appliance for some time.

I'll see if i can make one from my arch vm and test it in vmplayer tomorrow.


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#14 2006-10-22 19:53:15

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Re: Arch linux crashing after kernel upgrade and mkinicpio

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Archlinux VM basic install

- kernel 2.6.18.1-2
- root pw : KISS
- pacman mirror is set to belnet.be
- vmware tools NOT installed


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