Wayland native DM

struthio · 2022-02-25 22:15:06

hi,

I'm currently trying to make new Arch install witch is 100% Wayland native - for now I do not even want to install XWayland (part of this exercise is to find Wayland native tools that will replace the one I was using on X).

I trying to choose DM for this install and I have a bit of challenge.

I initially went with SDDM (as it is marketed as X11 and Wayland DM), but I saw that underneath is executes Xorg (as I do not have XWayland), but since this X dependency I want to replace it.
On Arch Wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Waylan … y_managers GDM is marked as "Runs on Wayland" BUT package for GDM still have dependency on xorg-server (even AUR package have this dependency).

Is there any DM in Arch that will run without installing X ?

Slithery · 2022-02-25 22:29:55

Are there multiple users of this system?
If not then you don't really need a DM at all.

struthio · 2022-02-25 22:35:12

Slithery wrote:

Are there multiple users of this system?
If not then you don't really need a DM at all.

You mean like auto login with automatic sway startup ?
If yes, then it is an option, although I would like some kind of password verification -> just for "illusion of safety".

Slithery · 2022-02-25 22:38:31

struthio wrote:

You mean like auto login with automatic sway startup ?
If yes, then it is an option, although I would like some kind of password verification -> just for "illusion of safety".

Then don't configure auto-login. Just setup your shell config to launch sway when you log in to the TTY.

frabjous · 2022-02-26 02:25:34

You might try the log in managers listed on the sway website here.

seth · 2022-02-26 08:14:10

You could also autologin to a locked session, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Session_lock#Wayland

struthio · 2022-03-06 22:01:41

Slithery wrote:

struthio wrote:
You mean like auto login with automatic sway startup ?
If yes, then it is an option, although I would like some kind of password verification -> just for "illusion of safety".
Then don't configure auto-login. Just setup your shell config to launch sway when you log in to the TTY.

Yes, although I would like some graphical login for 'wow' effect
I am working 99% time in terminal like apps, so at least in login screen I will look at something fancy

frabjous wrote:

You might try the log in managers listed on the sway website here.

Thanks, will try to go with QtGreet for now.

seth wrote:

You could also autologin to a locked session, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Session_lock#Wayland

Good suggestion, if attempt with QtGreet fails I guess this will be my next attempt.

imnotarealdoctor · 2022-03-08 03:16:51

Wayland Login Managers: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Waylan … y_managers

The Wayland Login Managers also goes a little bit deeper and even promotes other projects such as ly, tbsm, etc. Play around with it, I personally recommend GDM instead since Gnome kinda does do some development / work on integrating Wayland with Gnome.

I would recommend reading up on Arch Documentation as per usual.

I would love to provide much help as I would experiment with Wayland but unfortunately I'm running an Nvidia card.. sooo yeaaaaah, I do hope other users and Arch Wiki can be of help to you though!

Last edited by imnotarealdoctor (2022-03-08 03:18:50)

Slithery · 2022-03-08 10:54:19

Did you actually read the OP @imnotarealdocter?

They've already read that wiki page and given a reason why GDM isn't suitable for them.

imnotarealdoctor · 2022-03-08 12:08:28

Slithery wrote:

Did you actually read the OP @imnotarealdocter?
They've already read that wiki page and given a reason why GDM isn't suitable for them.

I just misread everything OP said.

Sorry about that OP

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Wayland native DM

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