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lorebett

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Registered: 2021-12-22

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[SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

Hi

I've just started using Arch with Gnome, and I noted that both tracker (version 2) and tracker3 are installed by default. I understand that the old tracker 2 is not used anymore since now tracker3 is the default.
I was wondering why also tracker version 2 is installed.

Thanks in advance

Last edited by lorebett (2022-05-26 11:55:05)

dogknowsnx

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

Do you have gnome-online-miners, or 'tracker-miners' installed/do you need it?
Otherwise check for orphans

pacman -Qdt

Last edited by dogknowsnx (2022-05-25 07:11:57)

lorebett

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Registered: 2021-12-22

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

Do you have gnome-online-miners, or 'tracker-miners' installed/do you need it?
Otherwise check for orphans

pacman -Qdt

Hi,

no, 'gnome-online-miners' is not installed.
While 'tracker-miners' is indeed installed (together with 'tracker3-miners').
What I wanted to stress is that this was a brand new installation: I did not install 'tracker' and 'tracker-miners' (old version) myself.
Of course, I can get rid of these old versions, but I was wondering why they get installed together with Gnome, besides the new version of Tracker (version 3, which of course makes sense).

thanks in advance

dogknowsnx

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

If you install the gnome group, the 'tracker*' packages will be installed by default. An alternative would be to install 'gnome-shell' and build up the gnome environment with packages you need/want...

lorebett

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

OK, thanks for clarifying that.
It's the first time I'm using GNOME in Arch, and since in other distros, only tracker3 is installed by default, I was wondering why the old tracker was also there.
As I said, it's a matter of removing the old package.

Raynman

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

Arch luckily doesn't have anything GNOMEish installed by default. If you specify a package group for installation, you get a list of packages and a chance to specify a selection. The default in pacman is to select all, but that doesn't make sense for all groups (and of course it depends on your wishes as well).

I just tried; tracker and trackers-miners were numbers 53 and 54 on the list. Then I can specify "^53,^54" (or "^53-54") to exclude those packages when pacman prompts for a selection. If you agree to the default, you are actually installing these packages yourself, even if you didn't really pay attention to the package list. And, yes, you can correct that by removing packages afterwards. Please mark your thread [SOLVED] by editing the title of your first post.

I don't know if you should file a bug report to suggest removing the older version from the gnome group. After excluding these packages, pacman still presents a boatload of packages for installation, including apache and many qemu- packages, so I would take a good look at the group members anyway, if I were to ever install GNOME.

dogknowsnx

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

As I said, it's a matter of removing the old package.

I get that, but you have to look at the package's shored object names (*.so.*), rather than the package name to understand that 'tracker' and 'tracker3' are not different versions of the same package... If you want full search/indexing functionality, you probably will have to keep both (dependency management of other distros is irrelevant).

Last edited by dogknowsnx (2022-05-26 10:41:42)

lorebett

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

As I said, it's a matter of removing the old package.

I get that, but you have to look at the package's shored object names (*.so.*), rather than the package name to understand that 'tracker' and 'tracker3' are not different versions of the same package... If you want full search/indexing functionality, you probably will have to keep both.

I seem to understand that they are different packages, and while tracker3 (by using the status command line option) is effectively running, tracker does not run at all.
I removed tracker (and its miners) and searching still works.

dogknowsnx

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Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

Please mark your thread [SOLVED] by editing the title of your first post.

lorebett

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Registered: 2021-12-22

Posts: 15

Re: [SOLVED] Both Gnome tracker and tracker3 are installed

Arch luckily doesn't have anything GNOMEish installed by default. If you specify a package group for installation, you get a list of packages and a chance to specify a selection. The default in pacman is to select all, but that doesn't make sense for all groups (and of course it depends on your wishes as well).

I just tried; tracker and trackers-miners were numbers 53 and 54 on the list. Then I can specify "^53,^54" (or "^53-54") to exclude those packages when pacman prompts for a selection. If you agree to the default, you are actually installing these packages yourself, even if you didn't really pay attention to the package list. And, yes, you can correct that by removing packages afterwards. Please mark your thread [SOLVED] by editing the title of your first post.

I don't know if you should file a bug report to suggest removing the older version from the gnome group. After excluding these packages, pacman still presents a boatload of packages for installation, including apache and many qemu- packages, so I would take a good look at the group members anyway, if I were to ever install GNOME.

I marked that as solved.
Please let me know if you think it's worthwhile to file a bug.
As I said, I selected "gnome" from the "archinstall", and I guess that's the same as the package group.