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#1 2022-07-28 20:51:26

shoelesshunter
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[solved]python pip no longer installing packages

I really don't know much about python. I've installed user packages locally with pip in the past, but now this happens

pip install lastgenre
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pip._internal.cli.main import main
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pip'

I am using python 3.10.5. But, I noticed I also have 3.8 installed from the AUR, and I can't recall why.

Thanks.

edit: tl;dr-- manually removing the pip package 'packaging' from my local pip stuff got it to work again.

Last edited by shoelesshunter (2022-07-29 22:47:07)

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#2 2022-07-28 21:01:33

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

What are the output of:

pacman -Q python
pacman -Q python-pip
which -a python
which -a pip

?


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#3 2022-07-28 21:20:15

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

pacman -Q python
python 3.10.5-1
pacman -Q python-pip
python-pip 22.2-1
which -a python
/usr/bin/python
which -a pip
/home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip
/usr/bin/pip

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#4 2022-07-28 21:34:59

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

Try installing something using pip, but provide the full path

/usr/bin/pip install lastgenre

If that works, I suggest deleting /home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip


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#5 2022-07-28 21:37:25

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

hmm. here's what happens.

/usr/bin/pip install lastgenre
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/pip", line 5, in <module>
    from pip._internal.cli.main import main
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pip/_internal/cli/main.py", line 9, in <module>
    from pip._internal.cli.autocompletion import autocomplete
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pip/_internal/cli/autocompletion.py", line 10, in <module>
    from pip._internal.cli.main_parser import create_main_parser
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pip/_internal/cli/main_parser.py", line 8, in <module>
    from pip._internal.cli import cmdoptions
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pip/_internal/cli/cmdoptions.py", line 29, in <module>
    from pip._internal.models.target_python import TargetPython
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pip/_internal/models/target_python.py", line 6, in <module>
    from pip._internal.utils.compatibility_tags import get_supported, version_info_to_nodot
  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pip/_internal/utils/compatibility_tags.py", line 7, in <module>
    from pip._vendor.packaging.tags import (
ImportError: cannot import name 'PythonVersion' from 'pip._vendor.packaging.tags' (/home/jmgant/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/packaging/tags.py)

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#6 2022-07-28 21:50:56

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

Huh, Rename /home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip something else (like  /home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip.bak ) then try again


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#7 2022-07-28 22:58:42

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

that did not change anything. interesting to note: under ~/.local/bin, I have pip, pip3, and pip3.8 installed.

is there any way, I can just uninstall/reinstall pip and it's related packages?

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#8 2022-07-29 00:31:27

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

You certainly can reinstall python and python-pip.  Might not be a bad idea.   And get rid of everything pip related under .local


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#9 2022-07-29 00:34:02

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

is there a best way to do this? how can I uninstall python when I have so many packages that depend on it? I don't care about my few pip-installed packages. but I don't want to break pacman.

I have python 3.8 installed as well.

Last edited by shoelesshunter (2022-07-29 00:34:49)

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#10 2022-07-29 00:35:36

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

No need to uninstall.   

sudo pacman -Syu python python-pip

I threw in a full system upgrade -- no charge.

Edit,

I have python 3.8 installed as well.

How do you figure?  Did you use pip as root?

Last edited by ewaller (2022-07-29 00:37:04)


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#11 2022-07-29 00:41:44

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

python 3.8 was installed from the AUR with yay.
I did

 yay -R python3.8

and dozens of (critical) dependencies showed up as to-be-removed. I canceled the operation. I removed all ~/.local references to pip, then reinstalled as you instructed. I still get the same error when trying to do pip install [package].

I have a feeling installing 3.8 with yay is causing some issue here.

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#12 2022-07-29 01:29:34

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

Stop fucking using that fucking fucked up yay.

I'm sorry, was that my outside voice?  Did you, or did you not, re-install python using pacman?


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#13 2022-07-29 01:31:25

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

haha. Yes, I re-installed using pacman. I still get the original error when using pip install.

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#14 2022-07-29 01:34:49

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

Okay, i do not know what the package name is for the python 3.8 from the AUR, but can you post the output of pacman -Qi whateverthenameofthepackageis   ?


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#15 2022-07-29 03:40:53

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

the output of

pacman -Ql python38 | wc -l 

is 7574.
what is the best way to share the output we need?

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#16 2022-07-29 07:28:44

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

"-Qi", not "-Ql" - you need glasses.

Your problem however isn't the system installation of pything, but the stuff in /home/jmgant/.local/lib/python*
Eg. the system pip tries to resolve /home/jmgant/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/packaging instead of /usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/packaging

for file in /home/jmgant/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/*; do [ -e /usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/$(basename $file) ] && echo $(basename $file); done

should™ give you an idea of the system packages that are occluded by the local ones.

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#17 2022-07-29 16:50:01

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

pacman -Qi python38
Name            : python38
Version         : 3.8.13-2
Description     : Major release 3.8 of the Python high-level programming language
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://www.python.org/
Licenses        : custom
Groups          : None
Provides        : python=3.8.13
Depends On      : expat  bzip2  gdbm  openssl  libffi  zlib
Optional Deps   : tk: for tkinter [installed]
                  sqlite [installed]
Required By     : acpilight  adb-sync-git  archey3  bpytop  calibre-installer
                  ceph-libs  checkmails  cuda  fio  fontforge  fwupd  gdb
                  gdb-common  glusterfs  gwe  intel-gpu-tools  kig  libixion
                  libratbag  libreoffice-still  libvirt-python  lxc  node-gyp
                  pahole  pastebinit  piper  proton-ge-custom-bin  python-ansiwrap
                  python-appdirs  python-apsw  python-asteval  python-attrs
                  python-beaker  python-brotli  python-brotlicffi  python-btrfs
                  python-cachetools  python-cairo  python-cchardet  python-certifi
                  python-chardet  python-click  python-colorama  python-constantly
                  python-coverage  python-css-parser  python-cssselect
                  python-distlib  python-distro  python-dnspython  python-docopt
                  python-docutils  python-entrypoints  python-evdev
                  python-feedparser  python-fonttools  python-future  python-geoip
                  python-gevent-eventemitter  python-gobject  python-greenlet
                  python-httplib2  python-i3ipc  python-idna  python-ifaddr
                  python-inflate64  python-injector  python-inputs
                  python-installer  python-itsdangerous  python-jaraco.context
                  python-jeepney  python-jellyfish  python-kiwisolver  python-lxml
                  python-lyricwikia  python-markupsafe  python-mock
                  python-more-itertools  python-mpd2  python-msgpack
                  python-multidict  python-multivolumefile  python-munkres
                  python-musicbrainzngs  python-mutagen  python-mypy_extensions
                  python-netifaces  python-nose  python-numpy  python-ordered-set
                  python-pdftotext  python-peewee  python-pillow
                  python-platformdirs  python-pluggy  python-ply  python-powerline
                  python-protobuf  python-psutil  python-py3_sg  python-py3nvml
                  python-py7zr  python-pyacoustid  python-pyasn1  python-pybcj
                  python-pychm  python-pycryptodome  python-pycryptodomex
                  python-pydub  python-pygame  python-pynvim  python-pyparsing
                  python-pyppmd  python-pyqt5-sip  python-pytz  python-pyxdg
                  python-pyzstd  python-raven  python-regex  python-rencode
                  python-resolvelib  python-ruamel.yaml.clib  python-rx
                  python-setproctitle  python-sgmllib3k  python-simplejson
                  python-six  python-soupsieve  python-steam  python-tenacity
                  python-text-unidecode  python-texttable  python-toml
                  python-tomli  python-traits  python-trove-classifiers
                  python-typing_extensions  python-unidecode  python-unrardll
                  python-uritemplate  python-urllib3  python-urwid  python-vdf
                  python-webencodings  python-werkzeug  python-wrapt  python-yaml
                  python-yarl  python-zeroconf  python-zipp  python-zope-event
                  python-zope-interface  qemu-tools  qytdl  ranger  samba
                  smbclient  steam  ufw  virtualbox  wdpass  xinput-gui  youtube-dl
Optional For    : btrfs-progs  cantor  clang  git  glib2  graphviz  gstreamer  gtk2
                  gupnp  imath  ki18n  konversation  kopeninghours  ldb  lensfun
                  libbytesize  libcec  libevent  libftdi  libieee1284  libmsym
                  libnewt  libproxy  libsmbios  libvirt-glib  libxml2  libxslt
                  lilv  lirc  mc  mlt  net-snmp  newsboat-git  nfs-utils
                  opencolorio  picom  shiboken6  talloc  tdb  tevent  usbutils
                  util-linux  vim  vim-runtime  volume_key  vtk  xfsprogs  zbar
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 116.60 MiB
Packager        : Unknown Packager
Build Date      : Sat 23 Jul 2022 04:10:02 AM CDT
Install Date    : Sat 23 Jul 2022 04:11:45 AM CDT
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : None
for file in /home/jmgant/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/*; do [ -e /usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/$(basename $file) ] && echo $(basename $file); done
packaging

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#18 2022-07-29 17:10:38

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

What is the output of (you can cancel the second one,  I want to see what if anything would block its removal)

pacman -Qi python
# pacman -R python38

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#19 2022-07-29 17:14:15

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

pacman -Qi python
Name            : python
Version         : 3.10.5-1
Description     : Next generation of the python high-level scripting language
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://www.python.org/
Licenses        : custom
Groups          : None
Provides        : python3
Depends On      : bzip2  expat  gdbm  libffi  libnsl  libxcrypt  openssl  zlib
Optional Deps   : python-setuptools [installed]
                  python-pip [installed]
                  sqlite [installed]
                  mpdecimal: for decimal [installed]
                  xz: for lzma [installed]
                  tk: for tkinter [installed]
Required By     : acpilight  adb-sync-git  archey3  bpytop  calibre-installer
                  ceph-libs  checkmails  cuda  fio  fontforge  fwupd  gdb
                  gdb-common  glusterfs  gwe  intel-gpu-tools  kcc  kig  libixion
                  libratbag  libreoffice-still  libvirt-python  lxc  node-gyp
                  pahole  pastebinit  piper  proton-ge-custom-bin  python-ansiwrap
                  python-appdirs  python-apsw  python-asteval  python-attrs
                  python-beaker  python-brotli  python-brotlicffi  python-btrfs
                  python-cachetools  python-cairo  python-cchardet  python-certifi
                  python-chardet  python-click  python-colorama  python-constantly
                  python-coverage  python-css-parser  python-cssselect
                  python-distlib  python-distro  python-dnspython  python-docopt
                  python-docutils  python-entrypoints  python-evdev
                  python-feedparser  python-fonttools  python-future  python-geoip
                  python-gevent-eventemitter  python-gobject  python-greenlet
                  python-httplib2  python-i3ipc  python-idna  python-ifaddr
                  python-inflate64  python-injector  python-inputs
                  python-installer  python-itsdangerous  python-jaraco.context
                  python-jeepney  python-jellyfish  python-kiwisolver  python-lxml
                  python-lyricwikia  python-markupsafe  python-mock
                  python-more-itertools  python-mpd2  python-msgpack
                  python-multidict  python-multivolumefile  python-munkres
                  python-musicbrainzngs  python-mutagen  python-mypy_extensions
                  python-netifaces  python-nose  python-numpy  python-ordered-set
                  python-pdftotext  python-peewee  python-pillow
                  python-platformdirs  python-pluggy  python-ply  python-powerline
                  python-protobuf  python-psutil  python-py3_sg  python-py3nvml
                  python-py7zr  python-pyacoustid  python-pyasn1  python-pybcj
                  python-pychm  python-pycryptodome  python-pycryptodomex
                  python-pydub  python-pygame  python-pynvim  python-pyparsing
                  python-pyppmd  python-pyqt5-sip  python-pytz  python-pyxdg
                  python-pyzstd  python-raven  python-regex  python-rencode
                  python-resolvelib  python-ruamel.yaml.clib  python-rx
                  python-setproctitle  python-sgmllib3k  python-simplejson
                  python-six  python-soupsieve  python-steam  python-tenacity
                  python-text-unidecode  python-texttable  python-toml
                  python-tomli  python-traits  python-trove-classifiers
                  python-typing_extensions  python-unidecode  python-unrardll
                  python-uritemplate  python-urllib3  python-urwid  python-vdf
                  python-webencodings  python-werkzeug  python-wrapt  python-yaml
                  python-yarl  python-zeroconf  python-zipp  python-zope-event
                  python-zope-interface  qemu-tools  qytdl  ranger  reflector
                  samba  smbclient  steam  ufw  virtualbox  wdpass  xinput-gui
                  youtube-dl
Optional For    : btrfs-progs  cantor  clang  git  glib2  graphviz  gstreamer  gtk2
                  gupnp  imath  ki18n  konversation  kopeninghours  ldb  lensfun
                  libbytesize  libcec  libevent  libftdi  libieee1284  libmsym
                  libnewt  libproxy  libsmbios  libvirt-glib  libxml2  libxslt
                  lilv  lirc  mc  mlt  net-snmp  newsboat-git  nfs-utils
                  opencolorio  picom  shiboken6  talloc  tdb  tevent  usbutils
                  util-linux  vim  vim-runtime  volume_key  vtk  xfsprogs  zbar
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : python3
Installed Size  : 54.28 MiB
Packager        : Felix Yan <felixonmars@archlinux.org>
Build Date      : Mon 06 Jun 2022 01:49:26 PM CDT
Install Date    : Thu 28 Jul 2022 07:37:47 PM CDT
Install Reason  : Installed as a dependency for another package
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : Signature
pacman -R python38
checking dependencies...
:: btrfs-progs optionally requires python: libbtrfsutil python bindings
:: cantor optionally requires python: Python backend
:: clang optionally requires python: for scan-view and git-clang-format
:: git optionally requires python: git svn & git p4
:: glib2 optionally requires python: gdbus-codegen, glib-genmarshal, glib-mkenums, gtester-report
:: graphviz optionally requires python: python bindings
:: gstreamer optionally requires python: gst-plugins-doc-cache-generator
:: gtk2 optionally requires python: gtk-builder-convert
:: gupnp optionally requires python: gupnp-binding-tool
:: imath optionally requires python: python bindings
:: ki18n optionally requires python: to compile .ts files
:: konversation optionally requires python: python scripting support
:: kopeninghours optionally requires python: Python bindings
:: ldb optionally requires python: for python bindings
:: lensfun optionally requires python: for lensfun-update-data and lensfun-add-adapter
:: libbytesize optionally requires python: for bscalc command
:: libcec optionally requires python: use cec in python applications
:: libevent optionally requires python: to use event_rpcgen.py
:: libftdi optionally requires python: library bindings
:: libieee1284 optionally requires python: for python module
:: libmsym optionally requires python: Python bindings
:: libnewt optionally requires python: libnewt support with the _snack module
:: libproxy optionally requires python: Python 3.x bindings
:: libsmbios optionally requires python: tools
:: libvirt-glib optionally requires python: support for python
:: libxml2 optionally requires python: Python bindings
:: libxslt optionally requires python: Python bindings
:: lilv optionally requires python: for Python bindings
:: lirc optionally requires python: for lirc-setup, irdb-get and pronto2lirc
:: mc optionally requires python: to access uc1541 or s3 storage
:: mlt optionally requires python: python bindings
:: net-snmp optionally requires python: for the python modules
:: newsboat-git optionally requires python: for exportOPMLWithTags.py
:: nfs-utils optionally requires python: for nfsiostat, nfsdclnts and mountstats usage
:: opencolorio optionally requires python: python bindings
:: picom optionally requires python: for running picom-convgen.py
:: shiboken6 optionally requires python: Python bindings
:: talloc optionally requires python: for python bindings
:: tdb optionally requires python: for python bindings
:: tevent optionally requires python: for python bindings
:: usbutils optionally requires python: for lsusb.py usage
:: util-linux optionally requires python: python bindings to libmount
:: vim optionally requires python: Python language support
:: vim-runtime optionally requires python: demoserver example tool
:: volume_key optionally requires python: for python bindings
:: vtk optionally requires python: python bindings
:: xfsprogs optionally requires python: for xfs_scrub_all script
:: zbar optionally requires python: for zbar python bindings

Package (1)  Old Version  Net Change

python38     3.8.13-2     -116.60 MiB

Total Removed Size:  116.60 MiB

:: Do you want to remove these packages? [Y/n]

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#20 2022-07-29 20:15:36

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

pacman -Qs packaging

but essentially /home/jmgant/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/packaging has to go, so move it elsewhere (directly to ~ is fine) and see whether this causes unpredicted issues (do you maybe have a 3rd python installation completely outside pacman? Where does /home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip come from??) and otherwise whether that solves your problem (when explciitly running /usr/bin/pip).

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#21 2022-07-29 20:25:29

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

pacman -Qs packaging
local/python-distlib 0.3.5-1
    Low-level functions that relate to packaging and distribution of Python software
local/python-packaging 21.3-1
    Core utilities for Python packages
local/python2-packaging 20.9-7
    Core utilities for Python packages

I removed 'packaging' from the local 3.10 site packages directory. pip now works. simply, 'pip.' no need to call it by path.

also, under ~/.local/lib I have three versions of python referenced:

python2.7 python3.10 python3.9

how do I safely remove the python3.8 package without breaking all those dependencies relying on it? if that is indeed what I should do.

thanks for all your time and help.

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#22 2022-07-29 20:47:24

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

shoelesshunter wrote:

how do I safely remove the python3.8 package without breaking all those dependencies relying on it? if that is indeed what I should do.

The packages are depending on python which is supplied by both python and python38.  I could not see anything requiring python38.

Last edited by loqs (2022-07-29 20:52:16)

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#23 2022-07-29 20:51:05

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

Everything that just depends on "python" will be satisfied by the regular python package, whether or not there's a parallel 3.8 installation doesn't matter (well, should™ not… but that would be a bug in that package)

pip now works. simply, 'pip.' no need to call it by path.

stat /home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip

python2.7 python3.10 python3.9

maybe stale residuals, the relevant question would be what is in there, but if you've no python2 installation around, python2.7 is dead weight for sure (and there's a good chance that so is python3.9)

python3.10 might contain local pip installations for the current python instance - as long as they're not occluding system installations, that should be no problem (except that they might be dated, but you'll have to keep pip stuff updated anyway)

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#24 2022-07-29 21:16:24

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

I'm not too worried about the local, residual python site-packages. in fact, any local pip package can just be done again if needed. I do, however, want to get python3.8 off my system as I don't even recall why I explicitly installed it, and I want to head off future conflicts.

stat /home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip
stat: cannot statx '/home/jmgant/.local/bin/pip': No such file or directory
which -a pip
/usr/bin/pip

I know you aren't a fan of yay, but since I used it to install, will doing

 yay -R python38

break stuff? it wants to remove a lot of things if I interpret the output right.

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#25 2022-07-29 21:31:32

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Re: [solved]python pip no longer installing packages

"yay -R python38" is a wrapper for "pacman -R python38"

if I interpret the output right

Which output? The one in #19? You'd be interpreting that wrong.

I know you aren't a fan of yay

If this is a reference to a current thread, the comments there are a bit more nuanced.

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