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neoabc123

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[SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

I have pdf which uses windows fonts,but okular/firefox etc. use notofonts for text inside inside instead of liberation or gnu-fonts which provide better appearence.How do i change this

Last edited by neoabc123 (2022-11-07 16:21:11)

neoabc123

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

Don't know why but installing xpdf fixed this in poppler based pdfs

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Metric … figuration
symlinking /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/30-metric-aliases.conf into /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.default should do - and be in place.

fc-match Arial

Are we sure the pdf actually "uses window fonts"? And what "windows fonts"? And why are they not embedded?

Edit: probably though an (unrelated?) config from https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/gsfonts/ ?
Did you have that package before?

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neoabc123

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

yes it uses windows fonts eg timesNewRomanPSMT etc. i found in okular file properties that these were substituted with noto-fonts and only a few were embedded.

sudo ln -sf  /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/30-metric-aliases.conf /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.default

doesn't fix

fc-match arial
LiberationSans-Regular.ttf: "Liberation Sans" "Regular"

xpdf installed with gs-fonts that probably fixed something.

edit: no didnt have earlier{didn't saw your edit}

Last edited by neoabc123 (2022-11-07 08:36:27)

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

Compare

fc-match "Times New Roman"
fc-match Arial

w/ and w/o gsfonts.

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

the same output

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

… being?

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

$ fc-match "Times New Roman"
LiberationSerif-Regular.ttf: "Liberation Serif" "Regular"

$ fc-match Arial
LiberationSans-Regular.ttf: "Liberation Sans" "Regular"

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

That would suggest that fontconfig correctly resolves the Liberation fonts, but "okular/firefox etc." do not?
Does

pdffonts -subst file.pdf

sow different results depending on the presence of gsfonts?

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

same output

name                                 object ID substitute font                      substitute font file
------------------------------------ --------- ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------
TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT                  157  0 Noto Sans Bold                       /usr/share/fonts/noto/NotoSans-Bold.ttf
TimesNewRomanPSMT                       160  0 Noto Sans Regular                    /usr/share/fonts/noto/NotoSans-Regular.ttf
TimesNewRomanPS-BoldItalicMT            163  0 Noto Sans Bold Italic                /usr/share/fonts/noto/NotoSans-BoldItalic.ttf
TimesNewRomanPS-ItalicMT                166  0 Noto Sans Italic                     /usr/share/fonts/noto/NotoSans-Italic.ttf
ArialMT                                 181  0 Noto Sans Regular                    /usr/share/fonts/noto/NotoSans-Regular.ttf

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

So to summarize:
Regardless of gsfonts fontconfig resolves the desired Liberation for while poppler *regardlessly!* substitutes Noto.
But installing gsfonts changes the behavior of poppler???

Try mupdf/llpp…

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

yes strange.Without gs fonts it renders incorrectly

Mupdf works fine even without gsfonts.

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/poppler/ … issues/819
The problem will be that "TimesNewRomanPS" is different from "Times New Roman".

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Re: [SOLVED]using different font substitute in pdfs

Thanks