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#1 2022-12-21 22:57:21

TommySaurus_Rex
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No sound after starting application

Hi together,

since a few day I have issues with the sound on my Laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad). I am using pipewire, pipewire-alsa, pipewire-pulse with wireplumber (and ofc alsa). After a reboot when I change the volume I can hear the sound KDE is making indicating the current volume. But as soon as I start for example firefox or VLC the audio is just gone. I can get it working by executing

systemctl --user restart pipewire

Sound is only working as long as no application is started. I checked in pavucontrol if everything is set up correctly. Furthermore alsamixer is detecting my soundcard and nothing is muted in the mixer. I reinstalled everything without success. In addition I tried pulseaudio and pipewire-media-session. Same result everytime.

What can I do to debug further? Does anybody have an idea what went wrong? (I am kind of a noob)

Output of wpctl status:

Audio
 ├─ Devices:
 │      46. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller [alsa]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │      59. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller HDMI / DisplayPort 3 Output [vol: 1.00]
 │      60. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller HDMI / DisplayPort 2 Output [vol: 1.00]
 │      61. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller HDMI / DisplayPort 1 Output [vol: 1.00]
 │  *   62. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller Speaker + Headphones [vol: 0.75]
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │      63. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller Headphones Stereo Microphone [vol: 1.00]
 │  *   64. Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Technology Audio Controller Digital Microphone [vol: 0.58 MUTED]
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:

Video
 ├─ Devices:
 │      40. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      41. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      42. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      43. Integrated Camera                   [v4l2]
 │      44. Integrated Camera: Integrated C     [libcamera]
 │      45. Integrated Camera: Integrated I     [libcamera]
 │  
 ├─ Sinks:
 │  
 ├─ Sink endpoints:
 │  
 ├─ Sources:
 │  *   47. Integrated Camera (V4L2)           
 │      49. Integrated Camera (V4L2)           
 │      51. Built-in Front Camera              
 │      53. Built-in Front Camera              
 │  
 ├─ Source endpoints:
 │  
 └─ Streams:

Settings
 └─ Default Configured Node Names:

Thanks in advance!

Last edited by TommySaurus_Rex (2022-12-22 06:47:07)

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#2 2022-12-22 02:53:01

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Re: No sound after starting application

can you post journalctl -b logs here?

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#3 2022-12-22 03:31:01

V1del
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Re: No sound after starting application

Known kernel regression, check a 6.0.10 or LTS 5.15.80 kernel, should be fixed in 6.1 when this rolls to stable.

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#4 2022-12-22 06:30:59

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Re: No sound after starting application

Here are the journals:

Pipewire

Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo systemd[855]: Started PipeWire Multimedia Service.
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo pipewire[862]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null)
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo pipewire[862]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo pipewire[862]: [0:00:09.104539956] [862]  INFO Camera camera_manager.cpp:299 libcamera v0.0.2

Wireplumber

Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo systemd[855]: Started Multimedia Service Session Manager.
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: Can't find xdg-portal: (null)
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: found session bus but no portal
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: Failed to set scheduler settings: Die Operation ist nicht erlaubt
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: [0:00:08.827486162] [864]  INFO Camera camera_manager.cpp:299 libcamera v0>
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: <WpPortalPermissionStorePlugin:0x55eecaed55c0> Failed to call Lookup: GDBu>
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: <WpPortalPermissionStorePlugin:0x55eecaed55c0> Failed to call Lookup: GDBu>
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: <WpPortalPermissionStorePlugin:0x55eecaed55c0> Failed to call Lookup: GDBu>
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo wireplumber[864]: <WpPortalPermissionStorePlugin:0x55eecaed55c0> Failed to call Lookup: GDBu>

Pipewire-pulse

Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo systemd[855]: Started PipeWire PulseAudio.
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[863]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null)
Dez 22 07:11:36 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[863]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal

Pipewire-alsa

No entries

Pipewire-Alsa

No entries

I did a downgrad to 6.0.10 and 6.0.5 and had the same issue. neutral

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#5 2022-12-22 06:41:40

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Re: No sound after starting application

After the changing to 6.0.5 AND changing to pipewire-media-session the audio is working again, but just for a longer amount of time. It still stops after some time sad.

Edit: I thougt it was solved, but as mentioned issue occured again after some time.

Last edited by TommySaurus_Rex (2022-12-22 06:49:08)

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#6 2022-12-22 10:51:19

V1del
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Re: No sound after starting application

When the situation happens, what's your output of

sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/*

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#7 2022-12-22 14:21:19

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Re: No sound after starting application

Here is the output of

 sudo fuser -v /dev/snd/* 

Output:

                     BEN.        PID ZUGR.  BEFEHL
/dev/snd/controlC0:  thomas      824 F.... pipewire
                     thomas      825 F.... pipewire-media-
/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p:   thomas      824 F...m pipewire
/dev/snd/seq:        thomas      824 F.... pipewire

I will try to downgrade pipewire as well.

Output with wireplumber

                     BEN.        PID ZUGR.  BEFEHL
/dev/snd/controlC0:  thomas      821 F.... pipewire
                     thomas      823 F.... wireplumber
/dev/snd/seq:        thomas      821 F.... pipewire

Edit: I tried it with Arch 6.1.1 just now, newest pipewire version. Issue is still present.

Last edited by TommySaurus_Rex (2022-12-22 14:42:05)

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#8 2022-12-22 21:30:48

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Re: No sound after starting application

I have the impression that the issue is not connected with starting an application. Seems like after some time the audio just stops to work. Also I find that when I have pavucontrol open, the issue takes longer to appear.

Does something maybe go on mute in the background and he fails to get switched on again? Way to check?

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#9 2022-12-22 22:05:36

V1del
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Re: No sound after starting application

Pavucontrol and the likes if it's a standard "mute" operation should show it. Any messages when it happens in dmesg/journal?

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#10 2022-12-22 22:36:12

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Re: No sound after starting application

Maybe this is something:

 Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:313 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7064]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:311 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7062]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:309 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7060]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:307 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7058]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:305 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7056]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:303 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7054]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7052]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo wireplumber[5890]: <WpSiStandardLink:0x7fdd68006440> si-standard-link: in/out items are not valid anymore
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:301 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:299 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7050]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7048]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7046]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:297 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7044]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:295 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7042]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:293 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7040]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:291 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7038]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:289 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7036]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo root[7034]: ACPI group/action undefined: button/volumeup / VOLUP
Dez 22 23:31:11 Lenovo pipewire-pulse[852]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x56142bb45b40 [libcanberra]: ERROR command:18 (PLAY_SAMPLE) tag:287 error:25 (Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler)

It says In/-Output error

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#11 2022-12-23 23:50:23

TommySaurus_Rex
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Re: No sound after starting application

It seems to work when pavucontrol is open in the background.

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