KDE "Remove Safely"

gothicknight · 2006-11-21 00:48:59

As for some time i can't "Safely Remove" any usb-pen drives. When i select the drive to be unmounted it simply does nothing. I'm in storage group and have HAL+DBUS running.

Any ideas are welcome

noriko · 2006-11-21 07:33:11

well, i don't use hal+dbus, so dunno if there is an issue their with the device being remounted... byt u could try umounting it ..

umount /dev/[usb_device]

it might spit out some errors...

vacant · 2006-11-21 09:20:48

Try for example

lsof | grep sda1

if your usb device is /dev/sda1. Might be the fam daemon?

gothicknight · 2006-11-21 11:43:39

I was hopping not to use umount, sure that it works and i use it for those cases but there's no point when i (suposly) can use KDE+pmount+HAL+DBUS.

The command lsof | grep /dev/sde1 doesn't return any output beying /dev/sde1 the USB-Pen device...

Bralkein · 2006-11-21 13:57:00

What happens when you try to do it in KDE? Do you get any error messages? Did you mount the devices with KDE to begin with?

When I plug in my USB drive, KDE detects it, lets me mount it, then when I want to remove it, I go to media:/ in Konqueror and then right-clicking on the icon allows me to Safely Remove the device.

I have a full install of KDE. I have these in my rc.conf:
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @crond hal @kdm network @portmap @fam @samba @lisa)

And my user account belongs to these groups:
lp wheel slocate dbus hal video audio optical floppy storage users share

Hope this helps!

soloport · 2006-11-21 19:21:53

Most drives work on my laptop. KDE (Arch's latest) detects, auto-mounts and pops open a window displaying the device contents. When I'm done, I up-arrow in the window until I see the device icon (with green "mounted" arrow), right-click, select "Safely Remove" and it just works (green arrow disappears, then the device disappears -- in most cases).

With a very few devices (have tested more than 30), this behavior stops at "Safely Remove". Sometimes it's because another window is still showing the device's contents (umount won't do its thing in this case). In some instances, it's just a stubborn device. The device will respond to 'umount /dev/sda1', etc., but it's annoying.

Have you tried a few drives? Different brands? (i.e. Maybe it's just the drive itself.)

Also, try "Safely Remove" and then disconnecting the drive. The "Safely Remove" should at least 'sync' the drive -- if it doesn't un-mount it. If you you absolutely cannot lose the data on the drive, don't do this. However, for stubborn brands, I've had success, so far, just disconnecting the drive -- live! In every case, KDE (actually the kernel driver) detects the removal and the device icon disappears from the window immediately. Nice. ;-)

Pierre · 2006-11-21 19:27:01

I can confirm this bug on different comupters (arch and arch64).

Perhaps the problem is caused by a "space" within the device`s name?

gothicknight · 2006-11-21 20:00:25

Just like Bralkein i've got the same daemons running except dam,smb and lisa. Also the same groups less the users, share, lp and slocate.

The HAL daemon reports to KDE that the device was found and it gives-me a popup windows so i can chose what to do (also amarok shows one either). The problem is when i select "Safely Remove" it simply does nothing better than showing a bouncing icon on the mouse pointer and goes silent without unmouting the drive.
I've also detected another "bug" that is ejecting a CD must be preceded by unmouting (in KDE... using CLI it works), wich should be done automagicly when selecting eject.

Also like soloport i have to unmount it using CLI... I'll try with diferent drives :twisted:

skottish · 2006-11-21 22:17:28

The eject button on CD/DVD drives sending the 'eject' command has been broken for a quite a while. I posted it about it when it first happened months ago. I never found a solution.

On my box, I can 'Safely Remove' all flash drives that I've tried, but it never works on I-Pods.

gothicknight · 2006-11-21 22:34:41

I'm not even talking about that, but on the Eject option in system:/ for CD/DVD drives

Bralkein · 2006-11-25 14:30:58

Right, now I am not an expert on this, but it is my understanding that removeable USB device mounting/unmounting is handled using pmount, right? This means that you can do this all as an ordinary user without having to mess about with /etc/fstab and/or giving the user too many permissions.

So, have you tried manually mounting/unmounting the USB device using pmount and pumount, not using mount and umount? Also, what does your /etc/fstab file say?

I have tried mounting and ejecting a CD using the system:/ dialogue and it works fine for me :-S

There has to be a reason why it doesn't work for you!

gothicknight · 2006-11-25 17:45:59

My fstab only has entryes to the HDD.
The eject function doesn't work without first unmounting the drive.
Using pmount/pumount works under non-root user but there shouldn't be a reason to use that :s

Later i'll post a bug for kdebase...

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KDE "Remove Safely"

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