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#1 2023-05-07 18:15:20

blackhammer
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arch crash

i was playing minecraft normally and system crash not the first time and not even a problem with a package or something on the system even when fresh install or even blackarch which comes prepackages full install all what i need both get crashed anyway  i get back to fresh arch  linux yesterday and now it crashes ok first of all

using kde-plasma with sddm login manager and X11
using intel hd 4400 graphic card ( logs will mention some more details about the pc)
i have nvidia card still haven't learned how to make it work installed correctly and everything but gives opengl error idk  why(forget it not my problem now gonna find solution later)

ok basically i am beginner with journalctl when it comes to detecting error and finding and detecting  the problems (maybe someone could guide me to where i can learn detecting errors)

here is the log file http://ix.io/4vpo of the boot which has the crash (last boot)

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#2 2023-05-07 19:29:16

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Re: arch crash

What exactly do you mean by "crash"?
There's no indication of a segfault, abort or kernel error in the journal you posted.

The nvidia GPU is in use by nouveau and nouveau has stalled the PCI bus in the past, but there's no indication of that (either)

If you suspect the problem to be related to nouveau, try to disable the GPU in the BIOS or blacklist nouveau, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … and_line_2

If that "fixes" it, focus on installing the nvidia drivers.

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#3 2023-05-07 19:33:16

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Re: arch crash

seth wrote:

What exactly do you mean by "crash"?
There's no indication of a segfault, abort or kernel error in the journal you posted.

The nvidia GPU is in use by nouveau and nouveau has stalled the PCI bus in the past, but there's no indication of that (either)

If you suspect the problem to be related to nouveau, try to disable the GPU in the BIOS or blacklist nouveau, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel … and_line_2

If that "fixes" it, focus on installing the nvidia drivers.


what i mean by crash the system stopped working no responding cant change to tty2 even or anything nothing responding and need hard reset and no its not gpu issue not working sill i am trying to make it work

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#4 2023-05-07 19:40:55

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Re: arch crash

no its not gpu issue not working sill i am trying to make it work

You did not understand a single word of what I wrote, did you?
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=284039&p=2

cant change to tty2

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Keyboa … el_(SysRq)
Forcing a reboot renders the journal useless.

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#5 2023-05-07 19:41:10

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Re: arch crash

after some performance guide in arch after install i just read it i think its maybe ram usage or cpu full usage or gpu render issue (intel gpu) idk exactly but if its gpu i would be able to change to tty2 right?

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#6 2023-05-07 19:42:49

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Re: arch crash

but if its gpu i would be able to change to tty2 right?

If the GPU (driver) halts the bus or kernel, you won't.

https://www.deepl.com/translator

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#7 2023-05-07 19:45:16

blackhammer
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Re: arch crash

seth wrote:

no its not gpu issue not working sill i am trying to make it work

You did not understand a single word of what I wrote, did you?
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=284039&p=2

no actually i didnt last couple comments but that because i was dumb i thought the driver i installed incompatable not working while the issue that i didnt even use it T-T


edit: ok thanks alot i appreciate the help  and i will consider blacklist the nvidia and see if anyother problem happends thanks.

Last edited by blackhammer (2023-05-07 19:48:06)

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#8 2023-05-07 19:55:02

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Re: arch crash

You need to blacklist nouveau, nvidia isn't being loaded (nor likely installed as it blacklists nouveau implicitly)

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#9 2023-05-07 19:57:11

blackhammer
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Re: arch crash

seth wrote:

You need to blacklist nouveau, nvidia isn't being loaded (nor likely installed as it blacklists nouveau implicitly)

ok thnx and sorry for alot of misunderstanding english not my primary language and i am trying my best to figure out what mean of every word in that old post with every new word i saw smile

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#10 2023-05-07 20:00:10

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#11 2023-05-07 20:02:34

blackhammer
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Re: arch crash

seth wrote:

english not my primary language

Hence https://www.deepl.com/translator


doesnt have arabic and even if it has understanding sentence and words in arabic harder ,sometimes the translater give a wrong meaning or like exact translate of the word which has no meaning in sentence -_-

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