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Zibi1981

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Registered: 2008-01-31

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Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

For some time I have this strange issue which I finally decided to describe here and ask for some help perhaps. First I thought it was due to some kind of my old system "garbage" or unknown config incompatibility, but I have the same issue on new Arch install on a different laptop.

The main thing is, I want to use two chromium-based browsers on my system - Vivaldi and Opera. Both are sandboxed with Firejail wit AppArmor, although Opera needs to be run with --noprofile option, otherwise it won't run at all.
The main issue is that I can't run them both - i.e. when Vivaldi is able to run, the Opera crashes and vice versa. This is not only true when it comes to simultaneous running, usually I'm not able to run one of these browsers at all. I'm not sure what is the reason for this, but usually Vivaldi is able to start more often than Opera. At this moment I can run Vivaldi without issues

$ /usr/bin/firejail --apparmor /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable
Reading profile /etc/firejail/vivaldi-stable.profile
Reading profile /home/zbigniew/.config/firejail/vivaldi.profile
Reading profile /home/zbigniew/.config/firejail/chromium-common.profile
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-devel.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-exec.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-interpreters.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-programs.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/disable-xdg.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-run-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-runuser-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-usr-share-common.inc
Reading profile /etc/firejail/whitelist-var-common.inc
Parent pid 437640, child pid 437642
Warning: An abstract unix socket for session D-BUS might still be available. Use --net or remove unix from --protocol set.
Warning: NVIDIA card detected, nogroups command ignored
Warning: NVIDIA card detected, nogroups command ignored
Warning: NVIDIA card detected, nogroups command ignored
Warning: /sbin directory link was not blacklisted
Warning: /usr/sbin directory link was not blacklisted
Warning: NVIDIA card detected, nogroups command ignored
Warning: NVIDIA card detected, nogroups command ignored
Child process initialized in 107.86 ms
[6:28:0901/113612.709268:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/firejail/mnt/dbus/system: Brak dostępu
[6:63:0901/113613.050181:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/firejail/mnt/dbus/system: Brak dostępu
[6:63:0901/113613.050212:ERROR:bus.cc(399)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /run/firejail/mnt/dbus/system: Brak dostępu
Otwieram w istniejącej sesji przeglądarki.

Parent is shutting down, bye...

(...)

$ firejail --list
42164:zbigniew::/usr/bin/firejail --apparmor /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable 

and trying to run Opera gives me error and nothing happens

$ firejail --apparmor --noprofile opera --lang=pl %U
Parent pid 444466, child pid 444467
Child process initialized in 4.40 ms
opera_crashreporter: --database is required
Try 'opera_crashreporter --help' for more information.
[2:2:0901/113751.551296:ERROR:socket.cc(120)] recvmsg: Połączenie zerwane przez drugą stronę (104)
[2:2:0901/113751.780734:FATAL:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(201)] Check failed: . : Brak dostępu (13)

Parent is shutting down, bye...

(...)

$ opera
opera_crashreporter: --database is required
Try 'opera_crashreporter --help' for more information.
[445656:445656:0901/113810.246442:ERROR:socket.cc(120)] recvmsg: Połączenie zerwane przez drugą stronę (104)
[445656:445656:0901/113810.439337:FATAL:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(201)] Check failed: . : Brak dostępu (13)
Pułapka debuggera/breakpoint (zrzut pamięci)

The funny thing is I'm usually able to make Opera run by deleting the hidden folder $HOME/.opera and restarting the system, but unfortunately I have to configure the browser from scratch and after another reboot...the Opera is not running again with the above mentioned error, but Vivaldi is working.

Maybe other important thing is I have profile-sync daemon configured and I frequently use psd c command to clean all the recovery snapshots.

Now, what could be the reason for this?

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Awebb

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Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

Try eliminating troublemakers one by one. PSD, Firejail probably Apparmor. Run the browsers on bare metal and see if the error still exists.

Zibi1981

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From: Poland

Registered: 2008-01-31

Posts: 720

Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

I'm sure that neither Firejail nor AppArmor are responsible, as running without those option changes nothing. Not sure about PSD, but It would be a real pain in the ass to reverse, especially when I want to use this mechanism.

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Awebb

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Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

Create a new user and try it with a fresh profile. Eliminate anomalies first.

seth

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Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

I'm usually able to make Opera run by deleting the hidden folder $HOME/.opera and restarting the system, but unfortunately I have to configure the browser from scratch and after another reboot...the Opera is not running again with the above mentioned error

errno 13 is EACCESS and this pattern basically yells to be a PSD problem.

You might run out of tmpfs or the sync during the shutdown gets cut short, leaving you w/ a corrupted on-disk copy - even if  you want to use it, you'll have to figure whether it's the cause and then, in case, fix it.
If you don't want to disable it, you could assume that it's the cause and look into its config and pot. pitfalls - but if it's actually not the cause, you'll have wasted your time. And won't even know that.

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Zibi1981

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From: Poland

Registered: 2008-01-31

Posts: 720

Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

So you state that PSD is producing a Vivaldi - Opera conflict? Both of those browsers are affected although Opera far more.

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whompus

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Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

I have Vivaldi and Opera running together fine with PSD, I do not use Firejail or AppArmor.

Zibi1981

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From: Poland

Registered: 2008-01-31

Posts: 720

Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

Here's what happened when I've had run psd parse

$ psd parse
Ungraceful state detected for /home/zbigniew/.config/opera so fixing
Profile-sync-daemon v6.48

 systemd service: active
 resync-timer:    active
 sync on sleep:   disabled
 use overlayfs:   enabled

Psd will manage the following per /home/zbigniew/.config/psd/.psd.conf:

 browser/psname:  firefox/firefox
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.mozilla/firefox/cbk1c7ac.default
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-firefox-cbk1c7ac.default
 profile size:    4,0K
 overlayfs size:  0
 recovery dirs:   none

 browser/psname:  firefox/firefox
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.mozilla/firefox/rdcmxx0p.default-release
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-firefox-rdcmxx0p.default-release
 profile size:    97M
 overlayfs size:  0
 recovery dirs:   none

 browser/psname:  google-chrome/chrome
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.config/google-chrome
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-google-chrome
 profile size:    4,0K
 overlayfs size:  0
 recovery dirs:   1 <- delete with the c option
  dir path/size:  /home/zbigniew/.config/opera-backup-crashrecovery-20230903_102242 (294M)

find: ‘/home/zbigniew/Pobrane/AUR/Tutanota/tutanota-desktop/pkg’: Brak dostępu
find: ‘/home/zbigniew/Pobrane/AUR/Phoenicis-playonlinux/phoenicis-playonlinux/pkg’: Brak dostępu
 browser/psname:  opera/opera
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.opera
                   Permissions are 755 on this profile.
                   Recommend a setting of 700 for increased privacy!
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-opera
 profile size:    294M
 overlayfs size:  0
 recovery dirs:   1 <- delete with the c option
  dir path/size:  /home/zbigniew/.config/opera-backup-crashrecovery-20230903_102242 (294M)

stat: nie można wykonać statx na '/home/zbigniew/.config/opera-backup': Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
 browser/psname:  opera/opera
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.config/opera
                   Permissions are 755 on this profile.
                   Recommend a setting of 700 for increased privacy!
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-opera
 profile size:    294M
 overlayfs size:  0
 recovery dirs:   1 <- delete with the c option
  dir path/size:  /home/zbigniew/.config/opera-backup-crashrecovery-20230903_102242 (294M)

stat: nie można wykonać statx na '/home/zbigniew/.config/vivaldi-backup': Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
 browser/psname:  vivaldi/vivaldi-bin
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.config/vivaldi
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-vivaldi
 profile size:    577M
 overlayfs size:  
 recovery dirs:   1 <- delete with the c option
  dir path/size:  /home/zbigniew/.config/opera-backup-crashrecovery-20230903_102242 (294M)

stat: nie można wykonać statx na '/home/zbigniew/.config/vivaldi-snapshot-backup': Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu
 browser/psname:  vivaldi-snapshot/vivaldi-bin
 owner/group id:  zbigniew/1000
 sync target:     /home/zbigniew/.config/vivaldi-snapshot
 tmpfs dir:       /run/user/1000/psd/zbigniew-vivaldi-snapshot
 profile size:    4,0K
 overlayfs size:  
 recovery dirs:   1 <- delete with the c option
  dir path/size:  /home/zbigniew/.config/opera-backup-crashrecovery-20230903_102242 (294M)

I don't have any clue what Ungraceful state detected for /home/zbigniew/.config/opera means, but after this I'm able to run both browsers. Will report back what happened after reboot.

Last edited by Zibi1981 (2023-09-03 09:05:11)

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seth

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Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

I don't think this is so much a conflict as more some sort of race condition.
The permanent storage ends up being corrupted when written back and simply having to sync more data might make it more likely for this to happen.

I'd pay very close attention to messages reg. the overlayfs when shutting down and see what happens when you terminate the browser processes, explicitly sync the data and only then reboot.

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Zibi1981

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From: Poland

Registered: 2008-01-31

Posts: 720

Re: Vivaldi and Opera incompatibility?

So it seems I have to execute psd parse command every time after I reboot.

I'd pay very close attention to messages reg. the overlayfs when shutting down and see what happens when you terminate the browser processes, explicitly sync the data and only then reboot.

I'll try to dig more into that.

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