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#1 2006-12-03 23:51:42

coolpyrofreak
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From: Colorado Springs
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kernel26suspend2

I have a small problem.  I have been using the suspend2 kernel recently because I like the suspend feature.  Last week, it was updated to the 2.6.19 kernel.  When I use it, KDE freezes for no reason.  I mean, really, no reason.  I will be just launching Opera, and it will freeze.  Sometimes, I don't do anything at all, and it freezes.  The only way out is to hard-boot my computer.  When I boot with the standard kernel, everything is fine.  Can anyone help or give me some ideas?

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#2 2006-12-04 00:08:59

iphitus
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Re: kernel26suspend2

what do you mean by 'freezes'?

can you still move the mouse? put some music on, does it keep playing? is it just one app freezing? does the system become responsive if you wait?

and for the vanilla kernel, are you using 2.6.19 or 2.6.18?

James

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#3 2006-12-04 00:14:44

coolpyrofreak
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Re: kernel26suspend2

It freezes, just like I said.  The entire system becomes completely unresponsive.  I can't move my mouse, and whatever programs I have running (if I can get that far) stop running as well.  For the vanilla kernel, I'm using 2.6.18.

I've been thinking about switching to kernel26beyond, even though I don't really need or want all of the extra patches it has besides suspend2.

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#4 2006-12-04 01:30:52

brain0
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Re: kernel26suspend2

Please try running kernel26 and kernel26beyond (both 2.6.19) and compare the results. I'm afraid without knowing more I have no way of helping you. Anything you notice could be helpful though.

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#5 2006-12-04 02:05:20

coolpyrofreak
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Re: kernel26suspend2

I installed kernel26beyond, and the same thing happened.  I know it's a really vague description, but I honestly don't know how to describe it any better.  About 30 seconds after KDE is done loading, everything freezes up.  My mouse won't move, my apps stop running, and my keyboard doesn't work either.  I can't run Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart X or Ctrl+Alt+Del to reboot my computer.

I'm afraid to upgrade the vanilla kernel to see if the same thing happens because I don't know if I could fix it without reinstalling Arch.

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#6 2006-12-04 02:49:00

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Re: kernel26suspend2

To downgrade kernel: pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kernel26-$OLDVERSION.pkg.tar.gz

If you have it set to boot directly into KDE, hit CTRL+ALT+F1 immediately after booting to get to a terminal where you can downgrade the kernel (or, better yet, set it to boot to terminal directly while you're still having this problem, and run startx)

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#7 2006-12-09 23:32:01

coolpyrofreak
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Re: kernel26suspend2

well, now that the vanilla kernel26 kernel has been updated in the repositories, i upgraded it using pacman, and the same kind of freezing up happened.  first, i couldn't even open any windows.  opera would just give me the bouncing icon like it was going to boot, but nothing happened.  konsole would open, and then close right away.  so i rebooted my computer, hoping that that would fix something.  it didn't.  as soon as kde booted up again, before i even had a chance to move my mouse, my computer froze on me.  none of my keyboard buttons would respond.  not even my caps lock button would light up.  i don't think that my startup music even had a chance to play.

i'm pretty sure that it has something to do with the kernel, because it works fine on kernel26-2.6.18.  once i upgraded to 2.6.19, that's when everything broke.  i'm reinstalling arch right now in hopes that my computer will be fine.  if that doesn't work, i guess i'm going to have to use some other distro that doesn't work as well as arch does.

brain0, you said to install both kernel26beyond and the vanilla kernel and compare the results.  the results are exactly the same as before.  i don't think it's my computer hardware.  i have a compaq presario 2500 notebook with an ATI Mobile video card and a 2.6 GHz intel celeron processor and 512 MB of RAM.

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#8 2006-12-10 12:30:13

brain0
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Re: kernel26suspend2

Seems to be a serious 2.6.19 bug, but as you only get freezes and no error messages or panics, I really don't know anything about a possible cause.

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#9 2006-12-16 01:49:31

djclue917
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Re: kernel26suspend2

coolpyrofreak wrote:

i have a compaq presario 2500 notebook with an ATI Mobile video card and a 2.6 GHz intel celeron processor and 512 MB of RAM.

Just curious... Do you use the proprietary ATI driver, fglrx?

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