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#1 2006-12-03 16:05:43

glad
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Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

why dont you devs put xfce4.4rc2 in current and the newest nvidia drivers they are more then stable and im getting tired of using some packages from testing and some not, so put those packages in current please?

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#2 2006-12-03 16:26:28

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

why dont you devs put xfce4.4rc2 in current and the newest nvidia drivers they are more then stable and im getting tired of using some packages from testing and some not, so put those packages in current please?

I think you would have to define "more than stable". Based on the outstanding bugs in the projects you mentioned I would not be inclined to agree with a reasonable interpretation.


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#3 2006-12-03 16:33:07

glad
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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

i have been using them since they got out, there are no bugs with them, they work perfect and Arch  is Bleeding Edge. xfce4.4 has been out very long.

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#4 2006-12-03 16:42:44

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

i have been using them since they got out, there are no bugs with them, they work perfect and Arch  is Bleeding Edge. xfce4.4 has been out very long.

There may not be any bugs that you have noticed, but that is not representative of the entire development as I'm sure you understand a single system is not indicative of what is reported against many different platforms and build environments. However, this is up to the Arch Team and you can always file a request in Flyspray which details your position.


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#5 2006-12-03 17:03:07

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

And the latest nvidia drivers don't like my FX5200Go.  Everything works fine, except opengl.  Annoying.  I believe there are also issues with GF3 and GF4 cards.  Thus, not stable.


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#6 2006-12-03 17:04:18

glad
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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

use the legazy drivers for those cards, g4 g3

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#7 2006-12-03 18:18:34

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

use the legazy drivers for those cards, g4 g3

The legacy drivers are meant for geforce 2 and lower according to NVIDIA legacy 7184 supported products  .

As for xfce 4.4 , they haven't released a stable version yet. Maybe there are some bugs in it ?


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#8 2006-12-03 18:21:00

glad
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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

they have release candidates which are stable enough, there could be some bugs there but users don't notice em

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#9 2006-12-03 20:04:48

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

they have release candidates which are stable enough, there could be some bugs there but users don't notice em

Surely that given the developers of xfce havn't deemed 4.4 stable (or complete) enough to warrant a full release, it implies that there could very well be a big problem with it?  It seems daft to label something as stable before it's makers label it stable.

You also can't make a sweeping generalisation like "users don't notice em", because you can't define a user, and thus you can't define what a user does or does not notice.


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#10 2006-12-04 01:21:40

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

why dont you devs put xfce4.4rc2 in current and the newest nvidia drivers they are more then stable and im getting tired of using some packages from testing and some not, so put those packages in current please?

If you want those so badly, then use testing. As for nvidia, I'd like to move them to extra, but I can't as about a fourth of our nvidia users will have broken Xorg then. Nvidia just fucked the release up and obviously aren't in a hurry to release again.

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#11 2006-12-04 07:47:58

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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

i have been using them since they got out, there are no bugs with them, they work perfect and Arch  is Bleeding Edge. xfce4.4 has been out very long.

then you found the first software project ever in the world to not have any bugs whatsoever in it. nice investigative work.

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#12 2006-12-04 13:47:35

glad
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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

okey then, evry program could have a bug or to, so what? xfce4.4 is working and i dont see any bugs with it.

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#13 2006-12-04 14:09:34

chrismortimore
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Re: Why not nvidia and xfce in current?

glad wrote:

okey then, evry program could have a bug or to, so what? xfce4.4 is working and i dont see any bugs with it.

Then congratulate the xfce devs on a job well done.

If you honestly believe that xfce 4.4 belongs in [extra], then perhaps post on the arch devs ML or flyspray (as suggested by McQueen)?  But I'm pretty certain they'll tell you pretty much the same as what we have said.


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