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#1 2006-12-03 13:56:58

chrismortimore
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Orphaned [community] packages

I was rummaging around AUR for orphaned packages (as one does on a sunday afternoon...), and noticed there are a few orphaned packages in [community].  I thought that one of the criteria for a package being in [community] was that it was maintained by a TU.  Going by this, shouldn't such packages be moved back to unsupported until a TU adopts them?


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#2 2006-12-03 14:02:05

McQueen
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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

This possibly had todo with willysilly's departure. There was some discussion of what to do with his orphaned packages in Community on the mailing list. Some have been adopted and others are under consideration. This process AFAIK is still ongoing.


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#3 2006-12-03 14:07:35

chrismortimore
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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

McQueen wrote:

This possibly had todo with willysilly's departure. There was some discussion of what to do with his orphaned packages in Community on the mailing list. Some have been adopted and others are under consideration. This process AFAIK is still ongoing.

Ahh, didn't realise willysilly left.  Cheers for clearing this up.


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#4 2006-12-03 21:42:54

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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

WillySilly's packages have not been orphaned yet as we're still in the process of getting some of them adopted by the remaining TU. The current orphaned packages were orphaned because the TU left or didn't had the time/interest to maintain them anymore. The packages remains in the community repo because users expect that packages they install from community will be updated/fixed when they do their regular 'pacman -Syu'. Some packages don't need a lot of maintenance and they can be adopted later on.  However, in the past, some community packages were moved back to unsupported and someone mentionned that perhaps some of willysilly's packages could be moved back to unsupported.  If you're interested in an orphaned community package, you could always bring it up on the TUR ML and it could be moved back in unsupported if no TU is interested in it.

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#5 2006-12-04 08:19:26

neotuli
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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

Also keep in mind that TUs take care of all the packages. The ones they are marked as maintainers of are simply the packages they take care of the most often and the most. Orphans can still be maintained by TUs, even if they don't choose to adopt them.


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#6 2006-12-04 09:00:29

Snowman
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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

neotuli wrote:

Also keep in mind that TUs take care of all the packages. The ones they are marked as maintainers of are simply the packages they take care of the most often and the most. Orphans can still be maintained by TUs, even if they don't choose to adopt them.

Yes, I forgot to mention that. From time to time, I will update an orphaned package. If an orphaned package needs to be fixed, post on the TUR ML.

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#7 2006-12-04 12:13:18

chrismortimore
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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

neotuli wrote:

Also keep in mind that TUs take care of all the packages. The ones they are marked as maintainers of are simply the packages they take care of the most often and the most. Orphans can still be maintained by TUs, even if they don't choose to adopt them.

Ahh, sorry, I didn't know that.  I thought it was a "This is my package, keep your hands off!" type thing.

Thanks everyone for explaining it all smile


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#8 2006-12-04 15:37:24

Romashka
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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

Also keep in mind that when package is moved from Unsupported to Community it becomes orphaned automatically (this does not happen when community package is updated). AUR update script is runned every 30 minutes. So, TU have to wait when AUR is updated and then adopt it. Maybe some of this packages was simply forgotten to be adopted and then just not updated by TU.


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#9 2006-12-04 16:32:50

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Re: Orphaned [community] packages

Also, just check the cvs entries, you can see who updated the package anyways, maybe even email them if you have questions.

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