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#1 2023-10-09 17:32:07

Alarg
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KDE Plasma hangs after login

Hello everyone.

I have an issue that persists since a week ago. I'm running Lenovo Ideapad S540-14IWL with Nvidia Optimus technology.

When I boot my laptop and login via SDDM, after the splash screen, Plasma hangs and shows only desktop background and the cursor. I can access other tty sessions without problem.
I uninstalled Nvidia drivers as a precaution and avoid Wayland, only using X11.

I don't know if its relevant, but sometimes after enabling and then starting NetworkManager.service from tty3, Plasma starts working as intended. No other error logs are present and I don't know where to find them as of this moment, regarding Plasma. Issue persists on both old install, and on current fresh install. Issue is not present on my desktop with AMD graphics.

Link to journalctl -b

EDIT: Dual-booting with Windows 11
Let me know if you need any more logs.

Regards,
Alarg

Last edited by Alarg (2023-10-09 17:33:18)

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#2 2023-10-09 19:10:24

twelveeighty
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

It appears that KWin crashes:

Oct 09 21:12:42 ALEKSA systemd[521]: Starting KDE Window Manager...
Oct 09 21:12:42 ALEKSA systemd-coredump[633]: Process 592 (udisksd) of user 0 dumped core.
 
                                              Stack trace of thread 592:
                                              #0  0x00007ff1e8a4d83c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x8e83c)
                                              #1  0x00007ff1e89fd668 raise (libc.so.6 + 0x3e668)
                                              #2  0x00007ff1e89e54b8 abort (libc.so.6 + 0x264b8)
                                              #3  0x00007ff1e89e6390 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x27390)
                                              #4  0x00007ff1e8addb4b __fortify_fail (libc.so.6 + 0x11eb4b)
                                              #5  0x00007ff1e8adee56 __stack_chk_fail (libc.so.6 + 0x11fe56)
                                              #6  0x00007ff1e8acb3e9 ioctl (libc.so.6 + 0x10c3e9)
 

There could be many reasons that this happens, including graphics card issues. Have you tried creating a dummy new user and logging into KDE as that new user (therefore with a default config)? If that works, then there could be a specific config that's causing this.

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#3 2023-10-09 20:04:41

seth
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

The process dumping the core is udisksd, likely b/c of the nvme, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=288972&p=2 and libblockdev

You're running on nouveau (in that journal) and I suspect xf86-video-intel  b/c of

Oct 09 21:12:42 ALEKSA kwin_x11[639]: OpenGL vendor string:                   Intel
Oct 09 21:12:42 ALEKSA kwin_x11[639]: OpenGL renderer string:                 Mesa Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2)
Oct 09 21:12:42 ALEKSA kwin_x11[639]: Driver:                                 Intel

in that case, get rid of that.

EDIT: Dual-booting with Windows 11

ceterum censeo: 3rd link below. Mandatory.
Disable it (it's NOT the BIOS setting!) and reboot windows and linux twice for voodo reasons.

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#4 2023-10-09 20:58:05

Alarg
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

twelveeighty wrote:

It appears that KWin crashes.

There could be many reasons that this happens, including graphics card issues. Have you tried creating a dummy new user and logging into KDE as that new user (therefore with a default config)? If that works, then there could be a specific config that's causing this.

I have just tried and it crashed from the very beginning, so it doesn't work.

seth wrote:

in that case, get rid of that.
ceterum censeo: 3rd link below. Mandatory.
Disable it (it's NOT the BIOS setting!) and reboot windows and linux twice for voodo reasons.

Disabled dual boot, still doesn't work. I do not have xf86-video-intel drivers present. Tried installing them, it still won't work, so I deleted them.

Regarding udiskd, I actually think that might be an issue. I read through your links and saw what is going on. Is a possible solution just to wait for an update? Mind you, I don't have any issues on my AMD desktop with NVMe storage, so I don't know how this targets NVIDIA Optimus laptop specifically.
Just tried mounting an USB drive, it mounted correctly, and when unmounting, Plasma crashed. Repeated.

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#5 2023-10-10 07:11:04

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

You cannot disable dual-booting, but let's assume fast-start is gone and it's the nvme anyway: it's very device specific and only some nvme's trigger that.

loqs, in the other thread wrote:

adding the kernel parameter swiotlb=force so all accesses go through the bounce buffer which will deal with alignment.

See whether that stabilizes the situation to (likely) confirm the cause.

Edit: Maybe

nvme id-ctrl -H /dev/nvme0

to record/compare your nvme(s)

Last edited by seth (2023-10-10 07:12:32)

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#6 2023-10-10 08:26:27

Alarg
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

You're right, my bad, I wrote hastily.

I added the kernel parameter in grub while booting and I got black screen before accessing SDDM, but tty works still, so this solution won't work. hmm
Link to second log

Regarding nvme id-ctrl, somehow I can't download nor I have present any kind of packages such as https://man.archlinux.org/man/nvme-id-ctrl.1.en on my system. Weird?

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#7 2023-10-10 12:25:27

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

I added the kernel parameter in grub while booting and I got black screen before accessing SDDM

Probably because

I uninstalled Nvidia drivers as a precaution and avoid Wayland, only using X11.

Oct 10 12:11:35 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: swiotlb buffer is full (sz: 524288 bytes), total 32768 (slots), used 1553 (slots)
Oct 10 12:11:50 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Xorg[452]: failed to idle channel 2 [Xorg[452]]
Oct 10 12:11:50 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: swiotlb buffer is full (sz: 524288 bytes), total 32768 (slots), used 1548 (slots)
Oct 10 12:12:05 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Xorg[452]: failed to idle channel 2 [Xorg[452]]
Oct 10 12:12:23 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: swiotlb buffer is full (sz: 4194304 bytes), total 32768 (slots), used 5698 (slots)
Oct 10 12:12:38 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: failed to idle channel 1 [DRM]
Oct 10 12:12:52 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: swiotlb buffer is full (sz: 4194304 bytes), total 32768 (slots), used 5698 (slots)
Oct 10 12:12:52 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Uncorrected (Non-Fatal), type=Transaction Layer, (Requester ID)
Oct 10 12:12:52 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0:   device [10de:1d13] error status/mask=00100000/00000000
Oct 10 12:12:52 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0:    [20] UnsupReq               (First)
Oct 10 12:12:52 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: AER:   TLP Header: 40000001 0000000f 8000028c f7f7f7f7
Oct 10 12:12:52 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: AER: can't recover (no error_detected callback)
Oct 10 12:13:07 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: failed to idle channel 0 [DRM]
Oct 10 12:13:16 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: swiotlb buffer is full (sz: 4194304 bytes), total 32768 (slots), used 5694 (slots)
Oct 10 12:13:16 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Uncorrected (Non-Fatal), type=Transaction Layer, (Requester ID)
Oct 10 12:13:16 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0:   device [10de:1d13] error status/mask=00100000/00000000
Oct 10 12:13:16 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0:    [20] UnsupReq               (First)
Oct 10 12:13:16 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: AER:   TLP Header: 40000001 0000000f 8000028c f7f7f7f7
Oct 10 12:13:16 ALEKSA kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: AER: can't recover (no error_detected callback)

Try the nvidia driver again  and post your xorg log

Regarding nvme id-ctrl, somehow

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/nvme-cli/

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#8 2023-10-10 13:02:42

Alarg
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

Link to NVMe log
Link to Xorg.0.log

Even with Nvidia drivers installed, rebooted twice, and then checked with kernel parameter, it still gave black screen the very same way as before.

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#9 2023-10-10 13:07:47

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

The xorg log is still w/ novueau?
Plese post an udpated system journal.

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#10 2023-10-10 16:47:25

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

I'm also having problems with Plasma after upgrading.
After updating kde5-base and similar packages to 5.15.11

[2023-10-09T19:21:07-0500] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syu'
[2023-10-09T19:21:07-0500] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2023-10-09T19:21:08-0500] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade
[2023-10-09T19:21:41-0500] [ALPM] running '60-mkinitcpio-remove.hook'...
[2023-10-09T19:21:41-0500] [ALPM] running '71-dkms-remove.hook'...
[2023-10-09T19:21:43-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove --no-depmod v4l2loopback/0.12.7 -k 6.5.5-arch1-1
[2023-10-09T19:21:44-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove --no-depmod v4l2loopback-dc/2.0.0 -k 6.5.5-arch1-1
[2023-10-09T19:21:44-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> dkms remove --no-depmod vboxhost/7.0.10_OSE -k 6.5.5-arch1-1
[2023-10-09T19:21:45-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> depmod 6.5.5-arch1-1
[2023-10-09T19:21:47-0500] [ALPM] transaction started
[2023-10-09T19:21:47-0500] [ALPM] upgraded adwaita-cursors (44.0-1 -> 45.0-1)
[2023-10-09T19:21:48-0500] [ALPM] upgraded libsysprof-capture (3.48.0-4 -> 45.0-1)
[2023-10-09T19:21:48-0500] [ALPM] upgraded glib2 (2.78.0-2 -> 2.78.0-3)
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[2023-10-09T19:22:01-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]    to install it to the MBR or UEFI. Due to potential configuration
[2023-10-09T19:22:01-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]    incompatibilities, it is advised to run both, installation and generation
[2023-10-09T19:22:01-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]    of configuration:
[2023-10-09T19:22:01-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]      # grub-install ...
[2023-10-09T19:22:01-0500] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]      # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
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[2023-10-09T19:22:02-0500] [ALPM] upgraded keepassxc (2.7.6-1 -> 2.7.6-2)
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[2023-10-09T19:22:33-0500] [ALPM] transaction completed

In Journalctl it says all the Qt programs are closing due to incompatible version:

Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.10) with this library (5.15.11)

I needed to rollback that update using archive.archlinux.org and a pacman -Syyuu:

 # back up mirrorlist first
cp /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.old

# point mirrorlist to the archive specifying date to rollback to e.g. to return to 5th April:
echo 'Server=https://archive.archlinux.org/repos/2023/10/02/$repo/os/$arch' > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
 
# do a full system upgrade (double 'y' refreshes your package database, double 'u' allows pacman to downgrade packages)
pacman -Syyuu

And everything returned to its normal behavior.

I don't know if this needs to be reported as a bug, but Plasma becomes unusable after upgrade.

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#11 2023-10-10 16:51:12

V1del
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

Do you use a non-standard Qt5 theme/theming engine (from the AUR)? Popular candidate is https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qt5-styleplugins which you need to rebuild everytime there's a qt5 upgrade

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#12 2023-10-10 17:20:34

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

Do you use a non-standard Qt5 theme/theming engine (from the AUR)? Popular candidate is https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qt5-styleplugins which you need to rebuild everytime there's a qt5 upgrade

Not at all, the standard Plasma dark theme.

Moreover, the involved programs were the main Plasma ones: kioslave, akonadi, discovernotifier...

Plasma starts partially. I could access global shortcuts like Meta+E (dolphin) and I was able to start some programs. But touching parts of the UI kills those programs.

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#13 2023-10-10 19:36:11

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

Please use [code][/code] tags, not "quote" tags. Edit your post in this regard.
Then try to start plasma, head over to a different TTY (ctrl+alt+f2) and please post your complete system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

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#14 2023-10-11 09:01:49

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

@seth

Link to my updated system journal with Nvidia drivers installed
Link to 0x0.st

EDIT:
I also concluded that this is indeed a plasma bug especially regarding Nvidia-capable devices, but I don't know how to troubleshoot this at all. Also, I do not have any special qt5 applications, only the default plasma group downloaded

pacman -S plasma

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#15 2023-10-11 10:32:57

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

Your nvidia driver installation is borked:

pacman -Qs nvidia

presumably you skipped over/didn't yet see step 5 of the nvidia installation instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA#Installation while you're there you'll also want to do https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA … de_setting to kick the simple_drm device

But none of this will have any relation to normal applications not loading because the qt versions are different. Or do you not have that issue anymore? The journal doesn't contain any of these incompatibility errors.

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#16 2023-10-11 13:03:13

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

I have not yet managed to install Nvidia drivers by the installation instruction. However, I have installed optimus-manager and it now behaves strangely well. Still hangs but loads much faster, and when I switch graphics, the desktop loads instantly.

I will let you know when I do manage to install Nvidia drivers the proper way.

Regarding Qt version, I did the rollback and nothing changed, so I restored the newer version back. It seems it's not related to mismatch but that it's still a Plasma bug.

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#17 2023-10-11 13:23:28

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

It seems it's not related to mismatch but that it's still a Plasma bug.

Hardly.
Does "qdiag-qt5" yield the incompatibility error?

ls /usr/lib/libQt5Widgets.so.5*

If you want comments on the behavior of the X11 server, post the xorg logs - but OM might actively unload nouveau and then load nvidia or so.

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#18 2023-10-12 10:06:11

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

@seth

/usr/lib/libQt5Widgets.so.5  /usr/lib/libQt5Widgets.so.5.15  /usr/lib/libQt5Widgets.so.5.15.11

qtdiag-qt5 report.

It was preceded by this chunk of log:

Failed to create Vulkan instance: -9
Failed to create platform Vulkan instance
Failed to create Vulkan instance: -9
Failed to create platform Vulkan instance
Vulkan instance is not valid

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#19 2023-10-12 10:14:27

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

... /home/alarg/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share/QtProject/qtdiag /var/lib/flatpak/exports/share/QtProject/qtdiag ...

flatschpak strikes again? When and with which exact applications do you get the Qt error? Only flatpak ones/only repo ones? I see kvantum, is that from the repos? That could indeed be a problem as the last kvantum rebuild predates the qt 5.5.11 upgrade.

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#20 2023-10-12 10:48:59

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

I don't know where I get Qt errors, the hangup happens only during the first login of every boot.
I was not aware I was using flatpak, I tend to avoid using flatpak and snap apps and since reinstall I have not used any flatpak apps. However, I do use Kvantum theme. The issue did happen before I installed kvantum theme manager though.

I have just deleted Kvantum and it seemed to work, but now it borked again.

The strange thing is I use Kvantum on my other system with AMD graphics and I have absolutely no issues whatsoever.

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#21 2023-10-12 11:46:41

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

The qt mismatch error has no relation to HW.

Assuming it doesn't actually happen anymore, can you reproduce your issues on a new user account? Is there something broken in your local profile?

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#22 2023-10-12 12:36:35

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

Greetings.

I have an issue I am unable to progress further with on my own.
I am running a Dell Precision 7550 with dual Intel and Nvidia GPUs and the proprietary Nvidia drivers. I use KDE Plasma with X11.

When I start the laptop, Plasma does not load as expected. Exactly how far it gets varies but most recently it does not load at all but ends up on a static black screen with a single underscore in the corner. I can switch to TTY to get logs and such.
Previously it has loaded the desktop but not any contents (start menu, app launcher, etc). Other times it seems to load as it should but certain apps don't start properly, remaining a transparent frame, most notably System Settings and Dolphin, while other apps like Firefox and Alacritty work as expected. Launching the struggling apps from a terminal does not give any error messages.
In any case, if the computer is left to go into sleep mode the desktop freezes except for the mouse pointer, and the only way to progress has been to switch to TTY and reboot.

Output of most recent

doas journalctrl -b

https://0x0.st/H4_e.txt

Output of

doas nvme id-ctrl -H

https://0x0.st/H4_F.txt

I have seen similar issues recently in other treads (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=289436, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=288972) and attempted to follow the instructions in them. I have tried reinstalling the graphics drivers in case I messed that up somehow, but it made no difference. I have also tried downgrading udisks2 and libblockdev to previous versions which also had no effect. I have tried reinstalling the content of the plasma-meta package without effect.
When I run

qtdiag-qt5

I get this, which does not seem good. Though maybe it is a symptom of the graphics not working rather than a cause.

qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display 
qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, xcb.

Aborted (core dumped)

Please let me know if there is any additional information I should provide.

Thanks,
Simon

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#23 2023-10-12 12:41:22

Alarg
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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

It does happen still. I have created a dummy account and the issue persists from the very beginning.

However, I have once accidentaly booted into fallback and the first boot was perfect, second boot encountered the same error as always.

I don't know if the local profile is broken, but this issue arose in the first week of October when I did my regular update. At that point, when I reinstalled the system, it behaves the same way. So, my old configs and new configs are out of the question, since even default config from fresh install creates the problem.

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#24 2023-10-12 13:18:14

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

1. Fix the nvidia installation (it's not that hard, you skipped step #5) and get rid of optimus manager
2. then post an updated xorg log and a system journal that actually includes

In Journalctl it says all the Qt programs are closing due to incompatible version:
Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (5.15.10) with this library (5.15.11)

3.

It does happen still. I have created a dummy account and the issue persists from the very beginning.

This refers to the hanging, right? Not the Qt version mismatch?

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#25 2023-10-12 13:23:52

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Re: KDE Plasma hangs after login

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 1#p2125831 has emerged, I'm assuming the udisks stack smash is the actual common problem right now. not sure how to best test that in isolation, upping libblockdev/libnvme to -git might not be too good, maybe cherry pick the patches?

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