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#1 2023-11-03 17:04:02

Aka271
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Broken nvidia Package?

Hey Community,

when I try to download the nvidia package via pacman i get this error:

Warning: Cannot resolve nvidia-utils=535.113.01 (a dependency on nvidia)

I don't know why... yesterday on my other pc it worked fine.

Have a great day wink

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#2 2023-11-03 17:08:32

loqs
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

The current none testing versions are
nvidia-utils 545.29.02-2
nvidia 535.113.01-8 which depends on nvidia-utils=535.113.01 so is unsatisfiable.

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#3 2023-11-03 17:08:49

Zibi1981
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Seems to me that nvidia-utils package (545.29.02-2) is already in Extra repository, whereas nvidia (545.29.02-2) is still in Extra-Testing.


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#4 2023-11-03 17:09:55

r3m8
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Hello,

Yes, i confirm this.

error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: installing nvidia-utils (545.29.02-2) breaks dependency 'nvidia-utils=535.113.01' required by nvidia

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#5 2023-11-03 17:10:52

Aka271
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Should I enable Extra-Testing then, or just wait until it gets updated? smile

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#6 2023-11-03 17:12:12

Ciade
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I was just about to make a thread myself, just tried to do an update and hit with:

sudo pacman -Syu
:: Synchronising package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: unable to satisfy dependency 'nvidia-utils=535.113.01' required by nvidia

Last edited by Ciade (2023-11-03 17:13:25)

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#7 2023-11-03 17:12:44

r3m8
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

No, wait some hours. Documentation say here https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Official_repositories :

Be careful when enabling the testing repositories. Your system may break after performing an update. Only experienced users who know how to deal with potential system breakage should use it.
If you enable core-testing, you must also enable extra-testing, and vice versa. If you enable any other testing repository listed in the following subsections, you must also enable both core-testing and extra-testing.

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#8 2023-11-03 17:15:48

loqs
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

It is a packaging bug.  The nvidia package needs to be rebuilt for core against nvidia-utils 545.29.02-2 plus linux 6.5.9.arch2-1 and then rebuilt again for testing against nvidia-utils 545.29.02-2 plus linux 6.6.arch1-1 or linux 6.6.arch1-1 moved out of testing.

Last edited by loqs (2023-11-03 17:16:53)

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#9 2023-11-03 17:16:15

Aka271
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Thank you smile I'll wait some hours.

r3m8 wrote:

No, wait some hours. Documentation say here https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Official_repositories :

Be careful when enabling the testing repositories. Your system may break after performing an update. Only experienced users who know how to deal with potential system breakage should use it.
If you enable core-testing, you must also enable extra-testing, and vice versa. If you enable any other testing repository listed in the following subsections, you must also enable both core-testing and extra-testing.

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#10 2023-11-03 17:25:53

n3ptun3
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

The nvidia-dkms package is is at version 545, so it can replace the nvidia one while it is not updated. That satisfies all dependencies.

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#11 2023-11-03 19:45:15

EmberQuill
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

r3m8 wrote:

No, wait some hours. Documentation say here https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Official_repositories :

Be careful when enabling the testing repositories. Your system may break after performing an update. Only experienced users who know how to deal with potential system breakage should use it.
If you enable core-testing, you must also enable extra-testing, and vice versa. If you enable any other testing repository listed in the following subsections, you must also enable both core-testing and extra-testing.

This issue isn't caused by enabling the testing repositories on my end though. There's a version mismatch in the stable repos since nvidia-utils 545 was moved to extra but nvidia 545 is still in extra-testing.

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#12 2023-11-03 19:47:43

loqs
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

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#13 2023-11-03 22:46:13

r3m8
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

EmberQuill wrote:
r3m8 wrote:

No, wait some hours. Documentation say here https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Official_repositories :

Be careful when enabling the testing repositories. Your system may break after performing an update. Only experienced users who know how to deal with potential system breakage should use it.
If you enable core-testing, you must also enable extra-testing, and vice versa. If you enable any other testing repository listed in the following subsections, you must also enable both core-testing and extra-testing.

This issue isn't caused by enabling the testing repositories on my end though. There's a version mismatch in the stable repos since nvidia-utils 545 was moved to extra but nvidia 545 is still in extra-testing.

Oops, I was replying to @Aka271 which asked above if activating the testing mirrors can solve this problem, and I recommended not to use testing mirrors as mentioned in the documentation.

Thank you for pointing out that this problem is not due to the use of test mirrors smile waiting packages updates

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#14 2023-11-04 05:21:33

tethys
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Just a question for the more experienced users. If I do the following:
- download manually nvidia 545.29.02-1 from Extra Testing and install it;
- do a "pacman -Syu --ignore nvidia"
- reboot
wouldn't that solve the problem? Would the error in "pacman -Syu" still occur?

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#15 2023-11-04 05:21:49

sergio89
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Let's give thanks for this redacted

I thought the maintainers of the core repository had become more responsible, but no.
This used to happen very often.
And there were no messages of apology, especially to those who tried to install the system for the first time.

Sorry, I just couldn’t resist, it looks like it’s time to move to another distribution.

Last edited by sergio89 (2023-11-04 05:40:55)

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#16 2023-11-04 07:11:14

hirak99
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I'm affected as well. This stops my routine system upgrade.

Since it's already been some time, and ETA is unknown, and I can't install some new packages I need, I am hoping there may be some safe workarounds!

Any safe workarounds?

Last edited by hirak99 (2023-11-04 07:14:23)

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#17 2023-11-04 07:41:30

hirak99
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

If not a lot of changes piled up on top of it, could we revert the change which broke it for now? Looks like this should be broken for anyone using nvidia - which should be rather large userbase.

Last edited by hirak99 (2023-11-04 15:07:18)

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#18 2023-11-04 07:47:35

seth
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

sergio89 wrote:

Let's give thanks for this redacted

I'm pretty sure the CoC says something about brigading, so I guess we won't.

This used to happen very often.

When? How "often"?
"Pic or didn't happen."

sergio***89*** wrote:

And there were no messages of apology

I'll resist, because that's really too easy.
I'll however point out that there's a comment about what likely happened in the previously linked bug.


it looks like it’s time to move to another distribution

Please let us know which 100% fuck-up free distro you settled on, so I can waste like a month or so with linking you all the examples of past mishaps.
roll

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#19 2023-11-04 08:38:50

icewolf0110
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Hey, fix this, cant even play games in my off day. This is really fk up and irresponsible.

Last edited by icewolf0110 (2023-11-04 08:50:13)

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#20 2023-11-04 08:45:16

dr1fter
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Posts: 33

Re: Broken nvidia Package?

It might be nice to publish an info on archlinux.org's news-page about this issue.

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#21 2023-11-04 08:48:51

kokoko3k
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

icewolf0110 wrote:

Hey, fix this, cant even play games in my off days. This is really fk up and irresponsible.

I fail to find any post from you where you thanked Arch staff for all the days this free distro allowed you to play your games till now.
How can it be!?


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#22 2023-11-04 08:49:35

seth
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

icewolf0110 wrote:

cant even play games in my off days.

So you've actually no idea what's going on and just wanted to express that?

The bug will prevent you from updating the nvidia package, therefore from running a system update.
It will not magically break a running system.

If you did something stupid and forced in the new nvidia-utils, you can downgrade to 535.113.01, in doubt from the ALA.
Or you switch to nvidia-dkms and locally build the 545 module for your kernel, if your "game" isn't just shitposting and for some reason depends on that specific driver version.

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#23 2023-11-04 08:52:47

icewolf0110
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

Arch is great. I can confirm that. But when thing like this happen, specially when do a new install and has no driver installed. I cant do thing that I often do. It just really pissed me off.

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#24 2023-11-04 08:56:25

JeanLucJ
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

I just found this thread encountering the same problem, and would like to thank everybody who is active on Arch.
And that includes forum users that are most active trying to help anyone with a problem.

Complaining about volunteer work, and in a rude way at that?
Kids these days...

And I confirm, I still can play games, the update was blocked, as it should be.

Regards,

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#25 2023-11-04 09:16:09

4color
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Registered: 2023-10-06
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Re: Broken nvidia Package?

A little oppsie once in a while is fine, I don't mind at all.

I'm able to update every other package that does not depend on nvidia, and everything is fine. Even if this issue is never fixed, eventually nvidia 545 will leave the testing repo and the issue will fix itself.

I just feel bad for the beginners trying to install for the first time while this is happening.

Last edited by 4color (2023-11-04 09:16:42)

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