[SOLVED]Cant login with user

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 14:10:39

When logging in, it asks me to log in again without any warning. But I can log in from the tty screen.
Now I logged in normally but as root. It does not accept user login on normal screen login.

I accidentally installed both non eufi and eufi. I suspect that the two are conflicting.

Last edited by jojo06 (2023-11-06 20:47:58)

Scimmia · 2023-11-04 14:18:59

The tty screeen *is* the normal login screen. If you've installed and configured something else, you have to tell us what and how.

There's no such thing as eufi, there's uefi, but installing the bootloader both way doesn't really matter.

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jojo06 · 2023-11-04 14:31:44

How do you call login screen ? Login manager ? I dont know what did i install to make corrupt the login. I just installed the essentials, utils and such. Journalctl, systemctl which one's output you need ?

I installed Amarok. the installation took too long. I think there were a lot of errors in the python files. Something like this caught my eye: Anybody using Amarok anymore? Could Amarok be the culprit?

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jl2 · 2023-11-04 14:53:08

login screen:
=> terminal: tty
=> GUI: display manager = DM

uefi and bios don't matter at all once you're in the OS. just ignore that you installed both.

So, your root login works and your regular user doesn't?
what DM are you using?

what you installed doesn't matter. If you think it's relevant, post 'pacman -Qq'
do you autostart amarok?

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seth · 2023-11-04 15:00:04

The thing that fails is your (graphical) session and the frequent mistake is to not have created a $HOME directory, what several desktop environments usually don't respond all that well to.

whoami
stat $HOME

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 15:00:11

Are you a genius? Tty 6 is working, I was able to log in successfully with the normal account. So can I ask what's the deal with tty 6? pacman -Qq output shows Amarok, yes, so I guess it's on autostart? Alsa is installed too, by the way.

whoami:
root (im the user)
And thats the output of stat $HOME:

File: /root
Size: 4096 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 directory
Device: 8,19 Inode: 1572865 Links: 15
Access: (0750/drwxr-x---) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2023-11-04 14:57:34.666651371 +0000
Modify: 2023-11-04 13:58:47.191048800 +0000
Change: 2023-11-04 13:58:47.191048800 +0000
Birth: 2023-11-03 13:02:41.806326965 +0000

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Scimmia · 2023-11-04 15:00:47

So you can't tell us what you installed, configured, and enabled? Nor what you're actually seeing? Do I have that correct? How did you set this system up? There's no way you can be this ignorant of what you have if you followed the installation guide as you claim.

jl2 · 2023-11-04 15:04:49

No, I am not a genius.
pacman is arch linux's package manager.
pacman -Qq shows all installed packages.
amarok would be relevant if you autostart it, then amarok crashes and for some reason pulls with your user session.
but I don't expect that. It's just the only reason it could be relevant.
I overread you mentioning tty working. I have already edited my post.
So is your root account failing with your DM?

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seth · 2023-11-04 15:08:27

@jojo06, not when logged in as root but as your regular user (on the console)

@Scimmia, the OP effectively doesn't speak English, the OP is most likely deepl.com (since it's their first coherent english post)
And yes, I very much doubt they've followed at least the english installation guide for that reason

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 15:11:10

Scimmia wrote:

So you can't tell us what you installed, configured, and enabled? Nor what you're actually seeing? Do I have that correct? How did you set this system up? There's no way you can be this ignorant of what you have if you followed the installation guide as you claim.

Why don't you calm down a bit? Yes, I installed it from a website on the internet, but it was a long installation as many people on the internet complained about. If necessary I can find the website and write it down here one by one, down to the commands I wrote. I'm trying to reply to your incredibly angry and overwhelming comment while I'm trying to catch up and edit the other guy's comment. I also installed a lot of stuff after the installation. The first things to install after installing the Arch on the internet, etc. I'm sorry I don't have them all memorized at the moment. But you still need to calm down a bit man, it's not nice

So is your root account failing with your DM?

No my user failing it. But in tty i was able to log in.

@seth
I think I logged in as user because I see my username in the console. I logged in as root but when I can log in as user from the tty it must have changed root to user
Contrary to what you think, I followed the installation in English and I can send you the link if you wish. But it didn't explain what we were doing, I know the basics but I'm not an expert and competent user. Yes, English is unfortunately not my mother tongue but I have never had such a problem outside this forum. And the funny thing is that even if I did the installation in my language the commands are in English

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seth · 2023-11-04 15:28:31

Yes, I installed it from a website on the internet … I can find the website and write it down here one by one

You'd rather link it, but that's irrelevant - it's most likely full of errors.

your incredibly angry and overwhelming comment

Please keep in mind that

English is unfortunately not [your] mother tongue

- Scimmia's post is nothing like what you suggest here.

I logged in as root but when I can log in as user from the tty it must have changed root to user

That's irrelevant - we need to see the output from your login as regular user, not as root.

Please post your complete system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 15:39:46

Can you tell me more clearly what I should keep in mind? The quotes are a bit intertwined.

It's not just the mother tongue, he has a very impetuous and aggressive style. I don't want to trouble you, why wouldn't I tell you if I knew?

I also noticed that the system had just put itself to sleep. When I came back, the login window said root. So no, I'm not a user, I'm root.
http://0x0.st/HtZD.txt

seth · 2023-11-04 15:54:54

So no, I'm not a user, I'm root.

seth wrote:

That's irrelevant - we need to see the output from your login as regular user, not as root.

However, it's not the $HOME, you botched the xorg config, specifically /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf - which is pointless anyway since you don't have any intel chip in that system.

Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: Parse error on line 5 of section Device in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]:         "true"" is not a valid keyword in this section.
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (EE) Problem parsing the config file
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (EE) Error parsing the config file
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (EE)
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: Fatal server error:
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (EE) no screens found(EE)
Nov 04 13:47:22 roses /usr/lib/gdm-x-session[945]: (EE)

=> Get rid of that file.

Scimmia merely and correctly pointed out your inability to name your DM and DE and plausibly (and correctly) challenged any assertion to have followed the wiki installation guide.
There's nothing aggressive about pointing out some facts and this being a language-barrier situation is the benelovent reading here.
And, again, given your previous posts also a very plausible one: I'm sorry but you seriously struggled to express yourself in English and I can see that you're also having a hard time following the posts here.

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 16:36:21

I'll delete the file and reboot. As you said, it could be a misunderstanding. I may have been a little skeptical. But I used a complete translation on this topic.

Yes now its fixed. I see root and user in login manager. Two option for login. Before than that, there was only user were listed. But my last preferences is missing when i login as root. Such as desktop background and etc. Is it okay ?
Also now i have another problem. When i maximize or move the 'Web browser' its froze for 3 seconds or something like that. And when i type in translate, the empty blank still remain. Its not translating; "type to translate" is still in there.

*Another problem is youtube videos. Its was unable to load, i tried open it in a incognito window and flushed the DNS and its solved.
Its mostly solved but videos are still buffers slowly if i click on a timestamp and the loading icon is kinda tearing. It was way worse in 144-240p the letters unable to read.

Why i shouldnt consider a fresh, clean reinstall ?

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seth · 2023-11-04 17:09:49

preferences is missing when i login as root

You're not supposed to log into a GUI session as root at all.

'Web browser' its froze for 3 seconds … youtube videos

You're running a Pascal chip on nouveau, I'd try the nvidia driver.
But please be aware that generally the HW video decoding support by browsers leaves much to be desired.
There're dedicated youtube clients like youtube-viewer and mpv can directly play everything that yt-dlp can download.

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 17:39:40

Oh, nouveau. I installed nvidia but it appears, i didnt installed correctly. Im not using youtube much. And i do prefer Arch to youtube surely.
But its not just youtube, now DeepL and even web browser tabs, frozening... What is HW? So is it nouveau is better than nvidia ?
I faced an issue about GPU and read it in the web. What Linux users do for it ? Prefering supported version or something ? AMD maybe ?

Checking out wiki page. Should i install LTS Kernel ? NV137 (GP107) thats the name of my GPU for 1050 Ti. How should i install it ?

seth · 2023-11-04 18:08:38

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA#Installation

What is HW? So is it nouveau is better than nvidia ?

"Hardware", sorry.
You'll probably have better results with the nvidia driver than with nouveau and that's completely regardless of the kernel version.

jojo06 · 2023-11-04 18:39:42

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/nvidia/
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/nvidia-lts/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-beta
https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x8 … idia-open/

Which one should i prefer ?

seth · 2023-11-04 20:44:33

nvidia and nvidia-lts aren't about "preference", but what kernel you're using.
The beta driver is obviously a beta driver and nvidia-open afaik still has some caveats (notably suspending the system doesn't work)
Whether you want to use a beta driver or value the open source nature over the more established closed source driver is *your* preference - I can't tell you.

Did you check whether the wiki is translated into your native tongue?

jojo06 · 2023-11-05 13:39:54

Well, my english not that bad, didnt use on that one. I understood the site but the problem is; it says like you, 'its up to your kernel. In that part i dont know what to choose.
And another thing i want to ask for knowledge. Its warning us about not to install from nvidia website why ? And also in the below its redirecting us to the nvidia.
And i didnt install optional LTS kernel. Its adviced for safety for if the other kernel got problems, it will be used. So should i install the LTS and regarding nvidia version, or something else ?

seth · 2023-11-05 14:01:39

In that part i dont know what to choose.

The one for the kernel you installed?

ts warning us about not to install from nvidia website why

The wiki wrote:

Warning: Avoid installing the NVIDIA driver through the package provided from the NVIDIA website. Installation through pacman allows upgrading the driver together with the rest of the system.

And also in the below its redirecting us to the nvidia.

There're some generic upstream links to articles and the nvidia forum, that's common and unrelated the installtion process.

And i didnt install optional LTS kernel. Its adviced for safety for if the other kernel got problems, it will be used. So should i install the LTS and regarding nvidia version, or something else ?

Wut?
You can or not install the LTS kernel, either to use it or as a fallback if you encounter issues with the main kernel.
You can also install it offline (ie. from the install iso) after running into such issues. That's completely up to you.
You'll need nvidia kernel packages for every kernel you install or alternatively use dkms.

And I'll say this one last time and I mean you well: you don't speak English.
At least not to the extent that's required in this context. As is evident from your inabiltiy to comprehend some plain English sentence in the nvidia article.
Use the wiki for your native language and deepl.com to translate what's not available there or you want to ask or express here - otherwise you'll make everything unnecessarily hard for yourself and everybody else.

jojo06 · 2023-11-05 15:02:25

I installed with 'sudo pacman -Sy nvidia nvidia-settings'. But I see the problem is going on.

seth · 2023-11-05 15:23:17

I'll assume you're referring to the browser videos?
Did you remove the nouveau driver from the initramfs as instructed by the wiki and reboot?
Please post an updated system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

jojo06 · 2023-11-05 16:04:27

It was solved in half. But still when I write to the deep translate window, it is still broken. I see 'File=' like: 'file-' & In the browser when i look for something with F3, the word is not clearly conurized, etc.
http://0x0.st/HtBB.txt

seth · 2023-11-05 16:10:22

Nov 05 15:54:44 roses kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA GP107 (137000a1)
…
Nov 05 15:54:45 roses kernel: nvidia-nvlink: Nvlink Core is being initialized, major device number 235
Nov 05 15:54:45 roses kernel: NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s).
Nov 05 15:54:45 roses kernel: NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as: 
                              NVRM: nouveau, rivafb, nvidiafb or rivatv 
                              NVRM: was loaded and obtained ownership of the NVIDIA device(s).
Nov 05 15:54:45 roses kernel: NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or
                              NVRM: reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting
                              NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel module
                              NVRM: again.
Nov 05 15:54:45 roses kernel: NVRM: No NVIDIA devices probed.

seth wrote:

Did you remove the nouveau driver from the initramfs as instructed by the wiki and reboot?

… "No, you did not"

Also "conurized" isn't a word - and a "conure" is a bird.

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