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#1 2024-01-02 20:29:36

N3kowarrior
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Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

Hi this is my first time posting here,
Backstory: I switched from Nvidia card to AMD one because it was priced very reasonable.
I did fresh installation of Arch for my new gpu so I dont have to clean the Nvidia drivers and i kinda like going through the installation process.
After fresh installation i fired up steam and game named For Honor, after like hour the game freezed and audio was repeating so i rebooted my computer by holding down the power button. This happened few more times,first i shrugged it if because i had the graphic settings set extreme.
So I lowered my settings and it didnt help. So i cross tested with X11 which resaulted in x11 crashing and taking me to login screen.
Note: When booting up the game firefox crashed as is showed in logs.

I didnt really understand the logs nor did chatgpt so am asking here. I am sorry for my spelling am not english native, please excuse me.

My Hardware:(neofetch)
OS: Arch Linux x86_64
Host: MS-7B54 1.0
Kernel: 6.6.8-zen1-1-zen
Uptime: 12 mins
Packages: 867 (pacman)
Shell: bash 5.2.21
Resolution: 1920x1080
DE: Plasma 5.27.10
WM: KWin
WM Theme: ActiveAccentDark
Theme: [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3]
Icons: Zafiro-Nord-Light-Black [Plasma], Zafiro-Nord-Light-Black [GTK2/3]
Terminal: konsole
CPU: Intel i5-9400F (6) @ 4.100GHz
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M/6850M XT <--- I have the RX 6700 10GB version
Memory: 1844MiB / 64244MiB

TLDR: Underclocking memory?

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#2 2024-01-02 20:34:38

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

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#3 2024-01-02 21:43:45

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

https://0x0.st
https://ix.io

So there's a wineserver crash, but only after kwin has aborted.
The steam game that causes this is exclusively "for honor"? Other games work?

Please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General (I don't think steam does native wayland, so testing there only unnecessarily complicates things)
Also suspend the compositor (SHIFT+Alt+F12) and try whether fullscreen and windowed mode differ.

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#4 2024-01-02 23:01:50

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

Ive underclocked my ram and it has fixed the issue for now/am still testing it.
Here are my xorg logs. https://0x0.st/H6aF.txt
Thank you for reply.

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#5 2024-01-02 23:07:12

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

That's your system journal, not an Xorg log.
Did you also change your RAM?
Does the new GPU draw more power than the old one?

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#6 2024-01-02 23:56:44

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

I am sorry Ive uploaded wrong file:
https://0x0.st/H6B9.txt
This should be correct one.

So i have:
700w psu
Intelcore i5 9400f TDP 65W
AMD Ryzen 6700 10GB is capped at 158W, I had gtx 1650 super which has 100w max
Z370M Motherboard (msi mortar)
2x32GB Kingston FURY DDR4 RAMs
1 HDD and 1 sata SSD
I think psu should be strong enough.

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#7 2024-01-03 08:40:46

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

The amdgpu driver might expose RAM issues through GTT/GART.
You could memtest86+ the RAM at it's original frequencies (but you'll have to run that for a couple of days w/ 64GB RAM to get meaningful results)

That being said: there've recently been a lot of amdgpu related issues, but they typically showed up as amdgpu kernel errors in the journal and there's nothing like that in yours, merely stack corruptions hmm

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#8 2024-01-04 00:22:44

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

What does stack corruptions means?
Day 2 no issue so far? Maybe cpu has hard time handling the the ram and gpu.
Should i mark thread as solved?

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#9 2024-01-04 08:58:27

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_corruption
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_management

Run memtest86+ but even iff it detects memory errors at higher frequencies (and not a lower ones), the mitigation is basically to downclock the RAM.

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#10 2024-01-07 00:59:48

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

So after long time it happened again.
I ran memtest86+ for one try without any error.
Now i downclocked the ram to 2666mhz which is slow but it stopped the crashing (I think)
Here is my Xorg log:
https://0x0.st/H6dE.txt
And when i looked in journalctl it basically had same errors as before, except for this one:
led 07 01:39:17 n3kobox kernel: hid-generic 0003:0D8C:0134.0004: No inputs registered, leaving
<This seems to happen when my mouse has low battery?

And it all seems to start by:
led 07 01:45:14 n3kobox libddcutil[826]: busno=5, sleep-multiplier =  1,30. Testing for supported feature 0x10 returned Error_Info[EIO in ddc_write_read_with_retry, causes: EIO]

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#11 2024-01-09 09:21:28

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Re: Games freezes wayland and crashes.Same on X11.[SUCCESS]

I ran memtest86+ for one try without any error.

seth wrote:

but you'll have to run that for a couple of days w/ 64GB RAM to get meaningful results

Can you run the system at a higher RAM frequency  when removing all but one DIMM?

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