What happened to 6.2 LTS, 6.3 LTS and so on?

rado84 · 2024-01-09 19:12:07

I'm using pamac-classic as a DISPLAY when there are new updates waiting. And it just showed me something weird - the LTS kernel jumps from 6.1.71 directly to 6.6.10! What the hell?! What happened to 6.2 LTS, 6.3 LTS and so on???

loqs · 2024-01-09 19:17:07

See the Longterm releases listed on https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html and https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=291745

V1del · 2024-01-09 19:17:55

6.6 is the next LTS. It's not Arch that decides that but the linux devs and that's were things jump to and the kernel the Arch package is tracking.

https://kernel.org/category/releases.html

rado84 · 2024-01-09 19:20:37

Ah, ok. I thought someone messed up versions. Let's just hope that 6.6 LTS will behave properly. Cuz problems between 6.4 Rolling and Nvidia were the reason I switched to 6.1 LTS.

loqs · 2024-01-09 19:39:39

rado84 wrote:

Cuz problems between 6.4 Rolling and Nvidia were the reason I switched to 6.1 LTS.

Both linux and linux-lts are rolling. linux-lts has one major release a year compared with five to six for linux. Using linux-lts gives a you up to a year to work with upstream to resolve issues in linux before it reaches linux-lts.

rado84 · 2024-01-09 20:09:06

In any case the problems with nvidia seem to have been fixed, so no need to downgrade, thus one thing less to worry about.

andrei1015 · 2024-01-09 20:18:38

I am still a bit confused, on the kernel.org site lts is 6.1.71 which makes sense as I now have 6.1.70.
6.6.10 seems to only be the stable one

loqs · 2024-01-09 21:01:53

There is only one current stable and mainline release while there are multiple LTS releases. stable will stay on 6.6.Y until the release of 6.7.1. The next LTS series is decided in advanced of there being a separate stable series.

rado84 · 2024-01-10 14:25:11

andrei1015 wrote:

I am still a bit confused, on the kernel.org site lts is 6.1.71 which makes sense as I now have 6.1.70.
6.6.10 seems to only be the stable one

You're confusing the terms. LTS are the stable ones. "LTS" means "Long Term Support" and is mostly meant for servers and other computers that don't get updated frequently, altough technically anyone can use LTS. The 6.6.10 you're talking about is the "rolling" release which is the "unstable" one. The word is in quotes because usually it's stable enough for you to use it, but the case is not always that, as my experience with 6.4.x and nvidia 535 showed.

loqs · 2024-01-10 14:48:02

rado84 wrote:

The 6.6.10 you're talking about is the "rolling" release which is the "unstable" one.

6.6.Y is stable as is any kernel released by the stable kernel team. LTS kernels are also considered stable and released by stable kernel team generally with the same cadence as LTS releases.

V1del · 2024-01-10 15:38:20

In principle, at the end of every year, the last stable kernel of the year is declared an LTS kernel getting security and bug fixes for 2 years. That kernel will during a ~1month time frame until the next kernel version gets released be both the "current stable" as well as the "current LTS" release.

The Arch packages got relevantly adjusted, because preparations have begun to release the next stable release 6.7 (which got released upstream)

andrei1015 · 2024-01-10 21:25:03

rado84 wrote:

andrei1015 wrote:
I am still a bit confused, on the kernel.org site lts is 6.1.71 which makes sense as I now have 6.1.70.
6.6.10 seems to only be the stable one
You're confusing the terms. LTS are the stable ones. "LTS" means "Long Term Support" and is mostly meant for servers and other computers that don't get updated frequently, altough technically anyone can use LTS. The 6.6.10 you're talking about is the "rolling" release which is the "unstable" one. The word is in quotes because usually it's stable enough for you to use it, but the case is not always that, as my experience with 6.4.x and nvidia 535 showed.

this is a bit confusing indeed. What I usually do is I go to kernel.org and check the numbers there. Until now our linux-lts was 6.1.7x, and our linux was 6.6.10, right? That corresponds with the first of the longterms on kernel.org, and the stable respectively. Now our linux-lts is what appears as stable on kernel.org and our linux I assume is soon going to be 6.7 (not 100% sure, but saw it was on that version in the core-testing repos, but not sure yet how that works). Will do some RTFMing myself and try to get unconfused.

what @V1del said also makes sense, but the above is still confusing a bit just because of the (apparent) change of branches.

Thank you for your patience! Yes, I am new to Arch!

V1del · 2024-01-11 00:02:41

6.7 will switch to "stable" on kernel.org at the first point release, when 6.7.1 is released and that's when 6.6 will join the other longterm kernels if you're basing your view on the kernel.org listing.

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What happened to 6.2 LTS, 6.3 LTS and so on?

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