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#1 2024-02-09 07:18:39

jcarrete
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Pacman custom installation reason

Anyone know if there is a way to manually specify a reason for installing a package? If not, I think this would be a neat idea.

The problem I have:
I will install a package, X, for some obscure reason e.g. building a software package manually. Time will pass and I will forget why I had package X installed. When I go to clean my system of unneeded packages, I'll look at package X and wonder if I should uninstall it.

In this scenario, it would be cool if at the time I installed that package, I could type out a reason for installing the package e.g. "KDE dev dependency". This reason would be custom and more detailed than just saying "explicitly installed" or "installed as a dependency". Of course I could just make a text file and keep track there but it would be cool if pacman would track it for me.

What do you think?

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#2 2024-02-09 08:03:11

mpan
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Re: Pacman custom installation reason

pacman has not such feature. The reason can be set only to “dependency” (--asdeps) or “explicit” (--asexplicit).

The closest you can get with the current version of pacman is creating a metapackage (e.g. named kde-dev-deps) with your packages as dependencies (`depends` array). You can then see a package among its dependencies. That’s inconvenient, though. Both for installing and removing packages.


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#3 2024-02-28 20:20:33

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Re: Pacman custom installation reason

The meta package idea is interesting. I think I'll stick with that for now.

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#4 2024-02-28 20:40:09

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Re: Pacman custom installation reason

As an alternative, you can just periodically review what's installed.  First, remove any orphans (covered in wiki), then get a list of explicitly installed packages that are not required by any other packages.  Every item on this list should be something you explicitly want / use - you shouldn't need to know *why* it was installed: if you don't still use it, then why it was installed is irrelevant, remove it.

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#5 2024-02-28 20:49:39

jcarrete
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Re: Pacman custom installation reason

Yea, that's basically how I was currently handling the situation. But for things like developing KDE applications, I could easily see myself looking at a package and thinking it's okay to remove, but it's actually a build requirement for an application which might not be so easy to reinstall depending the time between when I removed the package and when it was needed again.

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#6 2024-02-28 20:56:36

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Re: Pacman custom installation reason

Why would this be a concern?  When you rebuild the package that requires it, makepkg will pull in any build time dependencies automatically.


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#7 2024-02-28 21:03:30

jcarrete
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Re: Pacman custom installation reason

I wouldn't be using makepkg to build the KDE application. I am using kdesrc-build. I suppose I don't have to use this tool though. I was following the guide on their wiki

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