What happened to opera browser?

darthvader · 2024-02-08 09:28:35

Why has it been removed from the official repos? Why has it been demoted to the AUR?
Asking here because there was forewarning or announcement about this.

WorMzy · 2024-02-08 09:34:07

https://lists.archlinux.org/hyperkitty/ … FHRL76X47/

seth · 2024-02-08 10:17:50

https://archlinux.org/packages/?q=vivaldi ?
It's all blink anyway these days.

MAYBL8 · 2024-02-08 14:21:36

I mostly use opera for the free VPN that is included and I can login and have the same config on all installs.
Can I do that with Firefox?

ploub · 2024-02-08 19:14:01

There are free VPN extensions in Firefox and you can sync between installs

Last edited by ploub (2024-02-08 19:14:51)

rzs0502 · 2024-02-24 07:17:16

This is unfortunate. Only noticed it when I did an update yesterday and it took ages to upgrade Opera.
The reason is illogical. The maintainer may have not used Opera in years, but plenty of others do.
Yet there are lesser used browsers in the official repos.

Last edited by rzs0502 (2024-02-24 07:17:40)

seth · 2024-02-24 07:23:16

The reason is illogical.

This is a misconception - packages are in the official repos because some TU wants to maintain them there - it's not driven by "public demand".
Thing's just that in most of the cases the two conditions overlap.

it took ages to upgrade Opera

Ah, the beauty of pacman wrappers

https://www.google.com/search?q=opera%20vs%20vivaldi

Wertos · 2024-03-06 13:59:39

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ … sp=sharing

I use Opera, I will update as soon as possible.

BS86 · 2024-03-06 16:22:26

rzs0502 wrote:

but plenty of others do.

The guys that made Opera a great browser with a reputation left years ago after the project was sold.
Those same developers develop the Vivaldi browser since then which is in the repo.

edit: See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)

Last edited by BS86 (2024-03-06 16:25:21)

Wertos · 2024-03-06 16:53:44

BS86 wrote:

The guys that made Opera a great browser with a reputation left years ago after the project was sold.
Those same developers develop the Vivaldi browser since then which is in the repo.

All these browsers are almost the same! But I'm used to Opera and don't want to change to another browser.

tdtooke · 2024-03-07 22:51:20

I have fond memories of Opera back when you had to pay for it. I remember the big thing with it then was you could completely customize the look and back then you really didn't have that on other browsers to that degree. But yeah, those guys left Opera a long time ago.

seth · 2024-03-07 23:07:55

Edit #2, add something on topic:
There're three dominant webengines left: blink, mozilla and webkit.
Modern-day opera, vivaldi, edge, … all use blink and are basically chromium derivates.
The presto-driven opera of your youth (v12) is - unfortunately - long gone.
Opera was sold and the new owners did some things that angered the opera founders. Mightily.
And so they started vivaldi which will most likely remind you A LOT of opera - so you might want to have a look at it.

Last edited by seth (2024-03-07 23:19:04)

ploub · 2024-03-08 11:53:29

I switched to Firefox after reading this article which is fairly damning of Opera's business practices

Wertos · 2024-03-08 20:25:22

ploub wrote:

I switched to Firefox after reading this article which is fairly damning of Opera's business practices

This is a simple trick of competitors with custom articles!
It has always been and will be like this!
There is an article below about the Brave browser. And if you search, you can find something similar for all browsers!

seth · 2024-03-08 22:12:27

This isn't a distro where you'd be told what to do, but Opera has a miniscule market share - who do you seriousy think would run smear campains against them?
Google could just keep them out of the android playstore, done.

Maybe the criticism is fair (and in consequence to the scandal opera has disinvested from its loansharks in 2020)

Also links or didn't happen.
There's general criticism about the complexity of html5 having lead to essentially a browser duopoly, but I'm not aware of claims of unethical behavior by vivaldi.
There's however eg. https://vivaldi.com/blog/its-time-to-ba … vertising/

MAYBL8 · 2024-03-08 22:34:26

After reading all of this and reading other articles I am going to switch from Opera to Vivaldi.

The only reason I was using Opera was because of the built in VPN and being able to sync settings to other computers.
Seems like all the browsers allow syncing of settings. Not sure about the VPN feature though.

I always use DuckDuckGo as my search engine.

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