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Hello all, I was upgrading my system to find that it would hang on the login screen once finished and rebooted after logging in (I used a backup to restore to avoid any potential issues).
Looking at a few other forum posts on here within the past day or two, it seems like KDE is releasing a new Plasma version soon, and the posters advised against upgrading it until then while it's in transition. However, I would also like to upgrade the rest of my system in the meantime while holding off on Plasma, but I want to avoid resorting to partial upgrades.
Would it be best to hold off on upgrading this time around until the newest Plasma release comes out, or can I hold the package back and upgrade the rest of my system with no issues.
Please reply whenever you can, and I thank you in advance.
EDIT: Xorg seems to work fine with the new upgrade, but the issue seems to come from Wayland. The other forum posts I've seen are in regards to Wayland.
Last edited by cbrbygones (2024-03-11 02:12:39)
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You can add plasma to IgnoreGroup in your pacman config. Not sure what the group name is exactly, you can probably google that. I've been using wayland myself for a while and never had the sort of problems I've been seeing. Of course I did go full wayland from the first when I got back into linux so I didn't really do a transition from X11 to Wayland.
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Short Answer:
Hardly. Nor it's recommanded.
Long Answer:
Please read the wiki articles about Arch's packaging system before you post your questions on the bbs. Try to solve your problem on your own before asking for help.
Arch's packaging systems is designed in such an agressive way that, it only keeps the latest stable version of a software, and you should upgrade your system as a whole. This do have some drawbacks but also avoids complexity in package managing. The complexity of package managing comes from the fact that, if you upgrade some package, all the packages depends on it must be recomplied, and some of the packages it depends on also need to be upgraded. Some distributions, notably Debian-based ones, allows you to upgrade part of your system, but at the cost that their mechanism of dependency resolution is much more complex, and you can easily fall into a dependency hell, or your packages can end up in an inconsistent state.
However, the flexibilty of Arch's packaging system do enables manaul interventions. So you can carefully manually manage the versions of your packages. Read the pacman wiki article for more details. But this is strongly discouraged, and might not be the optimal solution to your problem.
Most of the problems of upgrading KDE plasma comes from incompatible configuration. Reseting them, or changing the settings back and forth can hopefully overwrite incompetible settings and solve the problem. Also note that plasma 6 defaults to Wayland, and if you do have problems with Wayland, switch back to X11. You also need to recomple 3rd party themes and plugins against Qt6 and KF6.
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it seems like KDE is releasing a new Plasma version soon, and the posters advised against upgrading it until then while it's in transition.
This is BS
However, I would also like to upgrade the rest of my system in the meantime while holding off on Plasma, but I want to avoid resorting to partial upgrades.
That's a contradiction in terms. "Upgrading the rest of your system" is, by definition, a partial upgrade.
EDIT: Xorg seems to work fine with the new upgrade, but the issue seems to come from Wayland. The other forum posts I've seen are in regards to Wayland.
Plasma changed the default sessionto Wayland. If it doesn't work for you, stay on Xorg for now.
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