Petition to add feature to pacman to support AUR packages

KolarBer · 2024-03-12 04:24:31

I'd like for pacman to have a feature to build packages from AUR

Scimmia · 2024-03-12 04:33:33

Never gonna happen.

KolarBer · 2024-03-12 04:41:01

Me=sad

Allan · 2024-03-12 05:54:15

pacman comes with a tool called makepkg which can be used to install AUR packages

KolarBer · 2024-03-13 10:09:44

But it takes more than one step. I guess I'll just use yay

seth · 2024-03-13 13:35:39

Building an AUR package *does* take more than one step, reviewing the PKGBUILD is a mandatory one.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AUR_he … n_wrappers
See the warning.
Otoh AUR helpers that allow you to eg. conveniently inspect the PKGBUILD and clone the AUR w/o having to type the entire URL are perfectly fine.

Using a pacman wrapper is also NOT an excuse to be unaware of https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_User_Repository - you'll probably eventually run into trouble with them.
Also the the warning in the second link. A systematic problem w/ pacman wrappers itr is that they blend repos and AUR.

KolarBer · 2024-03-13 14:13:01

I guess I'll be more careful next time

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 14:59:16

KolarBer wrote:

But it takes more than one step. I guess I'll just use yay

Are you finding that yay is automatically updating your system/software?

Every time I run sudo pacman -Syu, since installing yay, it tells me this:

:: Synchronising package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
multilib is up to date

I don't understand where and when my system is being updated...

EDIT - My issue here is RESOLVED, it was not related to YAY, see explanation below.

Last edited by WSDEs via FOSS (2024-03-13 20:31:43)

seth · 2024-03-13 15:06:53

cronjob, systemd timer, bad mirror selection… check your pacman log when the databases were the last time actually updated and use reflector to update your mirrorlist.

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 15:10:17

seth wrote:

cronjob, systemd timer, bad mirror selection… check your pacman log when the databases were the last time actually updated and use reflector to update your mirrorlist.

Does this mean you don't think my system is actually updated?

sudo pacman -Syyu

:: Synchronising package databases...
core 132.8 KiB 970 KiB/s 00:00 [----------------------] 100%
extra 8.3 MiB 7.19 MiB/s 00:01 [----------------------] 100%
multilib 141.2 KiB 4.60 MiB/s 00:00 [----------------------] 100%
:: Starting full system upgrade...
there is nothing to do

Last edited by WSDEs via FOSS (2024-03-13 15:13:38)

seth · 2024-03-13 15:11:40

It means I think you should take a look.

c00ter · 2024-03-13 16:28:05

WSDEs via FOSS wrote:

Does this mean you don't think my system is actually updated?

Your system is updated, but none of the packages you may have installed from the AUR.

And please quit using 'yy' as it is normally unnecessary unless you're changing mirrors.

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 16:52:02

c00ter wrote:

WSDEs via FOSS wrote:
Does this mean you don't think my system is actually updated?
Your system is updated, but none of the packages you may have installed from the AUR.
And please quit using 'yy' as it is normally unnecessary unless you're changing mirrors.

Ok, I don't normally use it, I just thought it might test the mirrors are ok. - I got it here https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/mirrors - 'Force pacman to refresh the package lists'

I still don't understand how my system is getting updated but I am not issuing that command.

Last edited by WSDEs via FOSS (2024-03-13 17:29:01)

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 16:53:17

seth wrote:

It means I think you should take a look.

I've looked at pacman log but a lot of it is strikethrough-ed and not clear what is showing an update or other.

seth · 2024-03-13 16:56:37

wtf is "strikethrough-ed"?
It'll show whether and when packages were actually updated the last time.
If this happens frequently, there's probably some systemd timer or cronjob for that, otherwise it might coinicde w/ startups/shutdowns.

iirc pamanc does sth. like that.

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 17:02:47

seth wrote:

wtf is "strikethrough-ed"?
It'll show whether and when packages were actually updated the last time.
If this happens frequently, there's probably some systemd timer or cronjob for that, otherwise it might coinicde w/ startups/shutdowns.
iirc pamanc does sth. like that.

Probably an error that showed up because I opened it with LibreOffice Writer.

Is there a guide for how I can post the contents of that file embedded in the forum post. I've had a search but not found one yet.

seth · 2024-03-13 17:03:39

cat /var/log/pacman.log | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 17:07:56

seth wrote:

cat /var/log/pacman.log | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

Thank you.
that is here: https://0x0.st/HFiS.txt

Scimmia · 2024-03-13 17:11:39

So you don't have anything auto-updating, your mirror is probably just out of sync.

Ironically, that's probably *why* the partial updates haven't caused problems. Stop doing partial updates.

Last edited by Scimmia (2024-03-13 17:14:59)

seth · 2024-03-13 17:16:51

Bunch or partial updates but no proper update since a month.
Likely your mirrors

pacman-conf | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

and use reflector.

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 19:24:03

seth wrote:

Bunch or partial updates but no proper update since a month.
Likely your mirrors
pacman-conf | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st
and use reflector.

This has got it moving now, thank you.

Not sure why it needed this as I've never used Reflector before...

seth · 2024-03-13 20:28:29

Because you mirrors were out of date.

Please always remember to mark resolved threads by editing your initial posts subject - so others will know that there's no task left, but maybe a solution to find.
Thanks.

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 20:33:43

seth wrote:

Because you mirrors were out of date.
Please always remember to mark resolved threads by editing your initial posts subject - so others will know that there's no task left, but maybe a solution to find.
Thanks.

I don't have a subject line in my first post in this thread but I have edited it and attached note saying it's resolved.

Thanks again for your help.

seth · 2024-03-13 20:36:33

Sorry, I missed that you hijacked the thread

WSDEs via FOSS · 2024-03-13 20:38:30

seth wrote:

Sorry, I missed that you hijacked the thread

That's fair.

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